From: Reijer Grimbergen yz yamagata-u ac jp> Date: 21 oct 2007 Subject: Re: Shukan Shogi: amazing commentary in the 2nd game of the 32nd This was an obvious mistake by me. The point here was that in the Sato-Habu game the bishops were not exchanged yet. I changed the comments as follows: *************************** This has already turned into a strange opening, even for Sato's standards. It is only the 16th move, but both players have already exchanged the major pieces. After the game, both players admitted to be surprised by the turn of events here. The idea of answering the early pawn push to 9e with G7h followed by P2d was already played in the third game of the 54th Oza match between Sato and Habu in 2006. There white didn't exchange the bishops first and after Rx2d, Habu played K6b and the game become a slow build-up (after this the rook promotion R2c+ doesn't work because of Bx8h+ Sx8h R2b). The bishop exchange followed by 14.R2b is far more aggressive. After the game, Moriuchi said that he never expected 14.R2b to be played here. Sato was also surprised: "I thought 15.Rx2b+ was not possible and only thought about 15.P*2c R4b". An interesting difference of opinion, leading to this unusual opening. Things will get a lot weirder, though... *************************** I have changed the webpages accordingly. Thanks for pointing this out. Reijer jfpinto voila fr wrote: > Hello, > > > > I have a question about a commentary in the 2nd game of the 32nd Kio match, played between Moriuchi vs. Sato, > > concerning the same joseki already seen in a previous game played between Sato vs. Habu in 2006(with an unknown reference). > > > > After: > > 1.P7g-7f ! > 00:00:00 00:00:00 > > 2.P3c-3d 00:00:00 00:00:00 > > 3.P2g-2f 00:00:00 00:00:00 > > 4.P9c-9d 00:00:00 00:01:00 > > 5.P2f-2e 00:01:00 00:01:00 > > 6.P9d-9e 00:01:00 00:02:00 > > 7.G6i-7h 00:07:00 00:02:00 > > 8.R8b-4b 00:07:00 00:04:00 > > 9.P2e-2d 00:22:00 00:04:00 > > 10.P2cx2d 00:22:00 00:25:00 > > 11.R2hx2d 00:22:00 00:25:00 > > 12.B2bx8h+ 00:22:00 00:35:00 > > 13.S7ix8h 00:23:00 00:35:00 > > 14.R4b-2b 00:23:00 00:35:00 > > 15.R2dx2b+ 00:54:00 > 00:35:00 > > 16.S3ax2b 00:54:00 00:35:00 > > ... and now: > > > > This has already turned into a strange opening, even for Sato's standards. > > It is only the 16th move, but both players have already exchanged the major > > pieces. After the game, both players admitted to be surprised by the turn of > > events here. Until the 14! > th move, both players followed a game between Sato > > and Habu played in 2006. There Habu played 14.K6b. Moriuchi said that he never > > expected 14.R2b to be played here. (...) > > > > ---> "There Habu played 14.K6b" : the threat 15.Rx2a+ seems enormous! Can I have a short explaination of this comment? > > Thank you very much. > > J.F. > > > -- Reijer Grimbergen Department of Informatics, Yamagata University Jonan 4-3-16, Yonezawa, 992-8510 Japan Tel: +81-(0)238-26-3740 FAX: +81-(0)238-26-3299 http://gamelab.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/ --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: shogi-l shogi net EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a2i6Ys.aCGIy8.c2hvZ2kt Or send an email to: shogi-unsubscribe topica com For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^----------------------------------------------------------------