From: manabu.terao <at> mx3 <dot> ttcn <dot> ne <dot> jp
Date: 26 jun 2007
Subject: A picture of Furigoma Scene(Was: E: P. 143 of "Shogi for Beginners")


Furigoma is to be conducted after pieces are set up by both players in
a game when conducted. Here is a picture example.

The link below is one of the entries of official bolog for 19th 
Ryuo-match about
the 7th game of December 20, 2006

http://ryuoh.weblogs.jp/blog/2006/12/post_fd76.html

Please look at the second picture on the page. It's the shot of just 
after 
the Furigoma conductor threw the 5 pawns of Ryuoh Watanabe(Left)on a 
white
cloth. It may be slightly difficult to see, but I think you can find the 

pieces have been already set up on the board.

Manabu Terao

P.S.
The second and third pictures of this page is the evidence of Sente(Ryuo
Watanabe) used King without a dot in the seventh game since he was the 
title holder and thus considered higher ranked than the challenger Sato. 

http://ryuoh.weblogs.jp/blog/2006/12/post_e82f.html

My headache is the replayable board on Internet. The following link is 
for 
the 7th game again. It shows Sente's King is with a dot and Gote's King 
is
without dot. It seems a specification of Kifu for Java which is used in 
many shogi net-broadcasting sites as the de fact standard in Japan.  
http://live.shogi.or.jp/ryuoh/kifu19/061221_watanabe-sato.html

I asked JSA before that this should be corrected. They answered they 
would
contact the developer for correction. But It's not fixed yet.


bogin <bogin <at> yahoo <dot> co <dot> jp> wrote:

> 
> I think in most professional games that the furigoma occurs before the 
> pieces are set up. So, the person that is Sente will naturally take the 
> Osho ( non jade king.). We are talking about pros, so they will not take 
> the wrong piece by mistake.
>


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