From: Manabu Terao <manabu.terao <at> mx3 <dot> ttcn <dot> ne <dot> jp>
Date: 26 jun 2007
Subject: RE: RE: P. 143 of "Shogi for Beginners"


As far as my experience concerned, I've never seen such trading
after Furigoma.

Manabu Terao=20

Aquinaswannabe <at> hotmail <dot> com wrote:

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> Just one last question to clear this up.  I'm sorry if you find my=20
> question unnecessarily speculative.
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> If the higher ranked player, who has taken the king general, is awarded=
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> sente through furigoma, do the two players then trade their kings?
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> Manabu Terao wrote:
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> > Hello shogi fans,
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> > I think it's time JSA to do so in their website. So ask JSA.
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> > Regards
> > Manabu Terao
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> > Aquinaswannabe <at> hotmail <dot> com wrote:
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> > >=20
> > > I hope this isn't too much to ask for, but can you give me a translat=
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> > >=20
> > > of the relevant portion of the official rules?
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> > > Also, if you give me a link to an English version of the official rul=
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> > > online, I'd deeply appreciate it, as I've never been able to find an=
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> > > English version of the official rules online (though I've found plent=
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> > > of rules.)  It would be nice to have such a translation, so that many=
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> > > questions may be avoided.
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> > >=20
> > > fabien.osmont <at> teambridge <dot> ch wrote:
> > > > Yes, I think he's wrong.
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> > > > A few monthes ago we had already a big discussion in the french for=
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> > > > with=20
> > > > "beginners" about this point and we verified the information we had=
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> > > > So I can confirm now that the King is for the "theorically" stronge=
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> > > > player, and the "Jade General" is for his "challenger".
> > > > It is clearly written in the japanese official rules.
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> > > > Nevertheless, in the western amateur world, I've never seen people=
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> > > > really=20
> > > > taking care of this.
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> > > > Fabien
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> > > > Aquinaswannabe <at> hotmail <dot> com wrote on 25/06/2007 04:15:36:
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> > > > >=20
> > > > > On P. 143 of "Shogi for Beginners," John Fairbairn writes, "It is=
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> > > > > important but a convention that many players like ot follow, for =
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> > > > > of extra atmosphere perhaps, is that if a set has two types of ki=
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> > > > > Black takes the one marked [Kanji character for 'jade'] and White=
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> > > > > marked [kanji character for 'king']."
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> > > > > Is John Fairfairn wrong about this?
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