From: Larry Kaufman comcast net> Date: 27 feb 2007 Subject: Re: A Comparison of Shogi, Chess, Xiangqi This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C75AAB.B205F1F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Diceman To: shogi topica com Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:16 PM Subject: Re: A Comparison of Shogi, Chess, Xiangqi And material advantage becomes less important in shogi endgames as speed, king safety issues, etc. arise. It is a testament to how dynamic shogi is that there is no "point scale" for the pieces. This is not an accurate statement. There are several scales given in various books by famous pros. For lance, knight, silver, gold, bishop, and rook (unpromoted), with pawn as 1, Tanigawa gives 5-6-8-9-13-15, while other pros give 3-4-5-6-8-9 (or 10), with other values for promoted pieces. I personally teach 4-5-7-8-11-13, which is a compromise between the above that I think works quite well. What is accurate is that there is much less agreement on the proper scale than there is in chess, and also that it is far more useful in the early stages than later on, when king safety becomes critical. Larry Kaufman, Amateur 5 Dan --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: shogi-l shogi net EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a2i6Ys.aB5TiY.c2hvZ2kt Or send an email to: shogi-unsubscribe topica com For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^---------------------------------------------------------------- ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C75AAB.B205F1F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF =
 
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And material advantage becomes less important in = shogi=20 endgames as speed, king safety issues, etc. arise. 

It is a testament to how dynamic shogi is that there is no "point sc= ale"=20 for the pieces.

     This is not an = accurate=20 statement. There are several scales given in various books by famous pr= os.=20 For lance, knight, silver, gold, bishop, and rook (unpromoted), with pa= wn as=20 1, Tanigawa gives 5-6-8-9-13-15, while other pros give 3-4-5-6-8-9= (or=20 10), with other values for promoted pieces. I personally teach=20 4-5-7-8-11-13, which is a compromise between the above that I think wor= ks=20 quite well.

     What is accurat= e is that=20 there is much less agreement on the proper scale than there is in chess= , and=20 also that it is far more useful in the early stages than later on, when= king=20 safety becomes critical.

 

     Larry Kaufman, = Amateur 5=20 Dan

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