From: alexei <at> hawaii <dot> rr <dot> com
Date: 06 aug 2007
Subject: Re: Adjourned Games


From what I understand, they are not supposed to get outside help or 
even analyze the game during adjournment, although I don't know how 
the latter could possibly be enforced (it is just by the honor 
system).  I remember years ago when Mori was playing a title match 
against Habu, during the lunch break Mori looked at the TV screen of 
the board position.  If that wasn't breaking the rules, it could be 
seen at least as a faux pas, though nobody did anything about it.

Alexei

----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Kaufman <lkaufman <at> comcast <dot> net>
Date: Friday, August 3, 2007 3:23 am
Subject: Re: Adjourned Games
To: shogi <at> topica <dot> com

> 
> Although I've never heard a rule against this, I'm not so sure. 
> Anyone else 
> out there know more definitely?
> 
> Larry
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Schreiber" <mark_schreiber <at> hotmail <dot> com>
> To: <shogi <at> topica <dot> com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 4:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Adjourned Games
> 
> 
> >
> > Thanks Larry. What about assistants analyzing the game with the 
> pro during
> > adjournment? Is this also permitted? Mark
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Larry Kaufman" <lkaufman <at> comcast <dot> net>
> > To: <shogi <at> topica <dot> com>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 12:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: Adjourned Games
> >
> >
> >>
> >>      For games with really long time limits like the Meijin (9 
> hours per
> >> side) games are scheduled for two days and are usually 
> adjourned. I never
> >> heard of any rule against looking at books overnight; it would be
> >> unenforceable anyway.
> >>
> >>      Larry
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Mark Schreiber" <mark_schreiber <at> hotmail <dot> com>
> >> To: <shogi <at> topica <dot> com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:41 PM
> >> Subject: Adjourned Games
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Do Pros adjourn games that use several hours per side? During
> > adjournment
> >> > are Pros allowed to consult shogi books?
> >> > Mark
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: Larry Kaufman
> >> > To: shogi <at> topica <dot> com
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:26 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: Shogi time controls
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >     Nothing is standardized. Probably ten minute sudden death 
> or 10" or
> >> > 20'' per move are the most popular time controls for really 
> fast play.
> >> >
> >> > Larry
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: Jeff Rollason
> >> > To: shogi <at> topica <dot> com
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 3:50 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: Shogi time controls
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks Larry. I was thinking more Amateur than Pro., so I 
> will go for
> > the
> >> > 45
> >> > limit. Are there any standardised Blitz-style timings in use?
> >> >
> >> > Jeff
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: Larry Kaufman
> >> > To: shogi <at> topica <dot> com
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:17 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: Shogi time controls
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >     Depends on whether you mean amateur or pro. Rating play 
> of the 
> >> > Tokyo
> >> > Amateur Renmei uses 45' sudden death. Some amateur events use 
> 30' plus
> > 30"
> >> > byoyomi. Pro events (other than tv games) usually use several 
> hours per
> >> > side
> >> > plus one minute byoyomi.
> >> >
> >> > Larry Kaufman
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: Jeff Rollason
> >> > To: shogi <at> topica <dot> com
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 1:10 PM
> >> > Subject: Shogi time controls
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone tell me what time controls might be typically used 
> in Shogi
> >> > tournaments and matches in Japan? In chess there are batches 
> of 40 
> >> > moves
> >> > in
> >> > 2 hours, with renewed time allocation and also Blitz timing. 
> I know the
> >> > CSA
> >> > timing is 25 minutes for all your moves, but may be that is 
> not in use
> > in
> >> > human tournaments. This is for use for on-line games.
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> >
> >> > Jeff Rollason
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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