From: fabien.osmont teambridge ch Date: 12 oct 2006 Subject: Re: Nintendo DS software incl. shogi( about Shogi Jisan) This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00420637C1257205_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Manabu and all interested shogi fans There's actually a fansub team already working on translating Shion no Ou. You can check their work here: http://shion-fr.c.la/ (yes, of course, it's= =20 in french :-) ) Fabien Manabu Terao mx3 ttcn ne jp> wrote on 11/10/2006 03:11:01: >=20 > Hello shogi fans, >=20 > I think it is an epoch-making event for shogi to be available > in Nintendo DS software of "42 All-time Classics" and "Clubhouse > Games" in the history of shogi localization. >=20 > The sales volume of Nintendo DS hardware OUTSIDE JAPAN has=20 > already exceeded 10 million sets since released. The sales > volume in Japan has also exceeded 10 million sets. >=20 > The sales volume of "Dokodemo Asobi Taizen"(Japanese version=20 > of "42 All-time Classics" and "Clubhouse Games) has exceeded > 550 thousand copies. >=20 > In consideration of sales volume of DS hardware outside Japan,=20 > the sales volume of "42 All-time Classics" and "Clubhouse > Games" may reach 500 thousand in one year or two. >=20 > I think most people won't purchase the software because it=20 > includes shogi. They will purchase it since they are more or less > interested in what games Nintendo considers "All-time Classics". > Most of them has been unaware of the existence of shogi and it > will be their first experience to encounter shogi with rule > description in their LOCAL LANGUAGE or Westernized Language at > least. I'm sure the software will play an significant role to > let people to get to know and try to play shogi. >=20 > The software supports Wi-Fi connection. Although the shogi strength > of the software is poor, the users can play a human to human shogi > game. >=20 > Regarding the shogi Manga, there is an information that Chika=20 > Umino, who is famous as the writer of "Hachimitsu to Clover", will > write a manga with theme of shogi. I will come back to you if it's > started. >=20 > As to translation of Manga into local language, it may be interesting to= =20 > read the following article. > "Progress Against the Law: Fan Distribution, Copyright, and the=20 > Explosive Growth of Japanese Animation" by Sean Leonard > http://web.mit.edu/seantek/www/papers/progress-columns.pdf (in English) >=20 > Also, it may be interesting as well to read the Wikipedia Page of=20 "Fansub" at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fansub (in English) > http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fansub (in French) >=20 > Several broadcasting companies in Japan have lots of Shogi contents. I= =20 wonder > if there is a good way to be available to see them in your languages.=20 Maybe > it will be done by Fansub, maybe not. >=20 > Best regards > Manabu Terao >=20 > fabien.osmont teambridge ch wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > Dear Allen san, > >=20 > > I'm actually also convinced that such software will help making Shogi= =20 > > better known all over the world. > > Here, in France, the Shogi community is already speaking about it and= =20 we=20 > > find this news are really valuable in the idea to promote Shogi to=20 > > beginners. > >=20 > > According of the kind of people regularly interested in Shogi in=20 France,=20 > > our next hope would be to see a Shogi manga translated in french. > > Since "Hikaru no Go" has been translated, the amount of Go players has= =20 > > grown significantly and we do hope that the publication of Gekka no=20 Kishi,=20 > > Shion no Ou, or any other good Shogi manga would have a similar effect= =20 on=20 > > Shogi. > > Let's hope... ;-) > >=20 > > Fabien > >=20 > > Woody Allen yahoo co jp> wrote on 10/10/2006 15:56:09: > >=20 > > > Hello, > > > Manabu Terao, Fabien, Kingsley, and shogi fans > > >=20 > > > I think the reason why Terao wrote this topic is not that the shogi= =20 > > > game included "Clubhouse Games" is strong , but that it is the first > > > time that non-Japanese edition of shogi game or game including shogi > > > is sold on Nintendo DS. It may be an entrance to shogi.=20 > > > It is great that people who don't have known shogi know shogi by=20 > > > "Clubhouse Games ". > > > Nintendo DS has 2 screens and 1 screen can be used as a tutorial. It > > > is kind for beginners, I think. > > > If they feel that the shogi game of "Clubhouse Games "is not so=20 > > > strong, we can tell them more strong shogi programs (e.g.=20 > > > "Bonanza"), "Shogi Club 24" , and "Shogi.net". > > >=20 > > > Allen (a Japanese shogi fan) > > > "To spread Shogi over the world" > > > http://w1allen.wordpress.com/ > > > ---If there is something wrong or unclear, please inform me it.--- > > >=20 > > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > > > From: fabien.osmont teambridge ch=20 > > > To: shogi topica com=20 > > > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:09 PM > > > Subject: RE: Nintendo DS software incl. shogi( about Shogi Jisan) > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > PS: I've also tested Shogi Jisan.=20 > > > Forget it definitely. It's nice for beginners but very quick to=20 beat.=20 > > > I always played quickly and without strong concentration against=20 > > > this software and beat it with level "1 Dan".=20 > > >=20 > > > My (other) 2 pences=20 > > >=20 > > > Fabien :-)=20 > > >=20 > > > manabu.terao mx3 ttcn ne jp wrote on 09/10/2006 14:05:46: > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > Hello Kingsley, > > > >=20 > > > > I never played Doko Demo Dekiru Shogi:AI Shogi DS nor AI Shogi for > > > > Windows. > > > >=20 > > > > According to several user review pages, I found the following=20 reviews=20 > > > > ahout the strength of AI Shogi on DS.(The reviews themselves are= =20 > > > > written in Japanese and translated by me.) > > > >=20 > > > > * It's not as strong as AI Shogi for Windows. > > > > * It's not as strong as Bonanza(Free shogi software). > > > > * My father used to be a champion in my town. But he cannot beat= =20 > > > > AI shogi on DS. > > > > * (Since you can adjust the level of the Software strength from > > > > 10 kyu to 4 dan,) you can play with computer opponents with > > > > various levels. > > > >=20 > > > > Just my 5 pence. > > > > Regards > > > > Manabu Terao=20 > > > > kingsley shogi wrote: > > > > >=20 > > > > > Hi Manabu > > > > >=20 > > > > > I've noticed there are a couple japanese language shogi games=20 out on=20 > > the=20 > > > > > DS: > > > > > Appare! Shogi Jisan > > > > > Demo Doko Demo Dekiru Shogi: AI Shogi DS > > > > >=20 > > > > > Would you know how strong the AI is on these games? As I would= =20 be=20 > > quite > > > > > interested in buying one of them if they were of reasonable=20 > > strength. > > > > >=20 > > > > > regards > > > > >=20 > > > > > Kingsley Pratt > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 > =1B$B;{Hx!!3X=1B(B > =1B$B>-4}$r@$3&$K9-$a$k2q=1B(B > http://www.shogi-isps.org > Email:manabu.terao mx3 ttcn ne jp > TEL&FAX: 03-3708-5603 >=20 >=20 >=20 --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: = shogi-l shogi net EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a2i6Ys.= bnuqMa.= c2hvZ2kt Or send an email to: shogi-unsubscribe topica com For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=3DTEXFOOTER --^---------------------------------------------------------------- --=_alternative 00420637C1257205_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-2022-JP" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Manabu and all interested shogi= fans

There's actually a fansub team alrea= dy working on translating Shion no Ou.
You can check their work here: http:= //shion-fr.c.la/ (yes, of course, it's in french :-) )

Fabien

Manabu Terao <manabu.terao mx3 ttcn ne jp> wro= te on 11/10/2006 03:11:01:

>
> Hello shogi fans,
>
> I think it is an epoch-making event for shogi to be available
> in Nintendo DS software of "42 All-time Classics" and "= Clubhouse
> Games" in the history of shogi localization.
>
> The sales volume of Nintendo DS hardware OUTSIDE JAPAN has
> already exceeded 10 million sets since released. The sales
> volume in Japan has also exceeded 10 million sets.
>
> The sales volume of "Dokodemo Asobi Taizen"(Japanese version=
> of "42 All-time Classics" and "Clubhouse Games) has exceeded
> 550 thousand copies.
>
> In consideration of sales volume of DS hardware outside Japan,
> the sales volume of "42 All-time Classics" and "Clubhou= se
> Games" may reach 500 thousand in one year or two.
>
> I think most people won't purchase the software because it
> includes shogi. They will purchase it since they are more or less
> interested in what games Nintendo considers "All-time Classics&qu= ot;.
> Most of them has been unaware of the existence of shogi and it
> will be their first experience to encounter shogi with rule
> description in their LOCAL LANGUAGE or Westernized Language at
> least. I'm sure the software will play an significant role to
> let people to get to know and try to play shogi.
>
> The software supports Wi-Fi connection. Although the shogi strength > of the software is poor, the users can play a human to human shogi
= > game.
>
> Regarding the shogi Manga, there is an information that Chika
> Umino, who is famous as the writer of "Hachimitsu to Clover"= , will
> write a manga with theme of shogi. I will come back to you if it's
= > started.
>
> As to translation of Manga into local language, it may be interesting to
> read the following article.
> "Progress Against the Law: Fan Distribution, Copyright, and the
> Explosive Growth of Japanese Animation" by Sean Leonard
> http://web.mit.edu/seantek/www/papers/progress-columns.pdf (in English= )
>
> Also, it may be interesting as well to read the Wikipedia Page of "Fansub" at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fansub (in English)
> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fansub (in French)
>
> Several broadcasting companies in Japan have lots of Shogi contents. I wonder
> if there is a good way to be available to see them in your languages. Maybe
> it will be done by Fansub, maybe not.
>
> Best regards
> Manabu Terao
>
> fabien.osmont teambridge ch wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear Allen san,
> >
> > I'm actually also convinced that such software will help making Shogi
> > better known all over the world.
> > Here, in France, the Shogi community is already speaking about it and we
> > find this news are really valuable in the idea to promote Shogi to
> > beginners.
> >
> > According of the kind of people regularly interested in Shogi in France,
> > our next hope would be to see a Shogi manga translated in french.=
> > Since "Hikaru no Go" has been translated, the amount of Go players has
> > grown significantly and we do hope that the publication of Gekka no Kishi,
> > Shion no Ou, or any other good Shogi manga would have a similar effect on
> > Shogi.
> > Let's hope... ;-)
> >
> > Fabien
> >
> > Woody Allen <w4allen yahoo co jp> wrote on 10/10/2006 15:56= :09:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > Manabu Terao, Fabien, Kingsley, and shogi fans
> > >
> > > I think the reason why Terao wrote this topic is not that the shogi
> > > game included "Clubhouse Games" is strong , but that it is the first
> > > time that non-Japanese edition of shogi game or game includi= ng shogi
> > > is sold on Nintendo DS. It may be an entrance to shogi.
> > > It is great that people who don't have known shogi know shogi by
> > > "Clubhouse Games ".
> > > Nintendo DS has 2 screens and 1 screen can be used as a tutorial. It
> > > is kind for beginners, I think.
> > > If they feel that the shogi game of "Clubhouse Games "is not so
> > > strong, we can tell them more strong shogi programs (e.g.
> > > "Bonanza"), "Shogi Club 24" , and "= Shogi.net".
> > >
> > > Allen (a Japanese shogi fan)
> > > "To spread Shogi over the world"
> > > http://w1allen.wordpress.com/
> > > ---If there is something wrong or unclear, please inform me it.---
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: fabien.osmont teambridge ch
> > > To: shogi topica com
> > > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:09 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Nintendo DS software incl. shogi( about Shogi Jisan)
> > >
> > >
> > > PS: I've also tested Shogi Jisan.
> > > Forget it definitely. It's nice for beginners but very quick= to beat.
> > > I always played quickly and without strong concentration against
> > > this software and beat it with level "1 Dan".
> > >
> > > My (other) 2 pences
> > >
> > >         Fabien :-)
> > >
> > > manabu.terao mx3 ttcn ne jp wrote on 09/10/2006 14:05:46: > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello Kingsley,
> > > >
> > > > I never played Doko Demo Dekiru Shogi:AI Shogi DS nor AI Shogi for
> > > > Windows.
> > > >
> > > > According to several user review pages, I found the following reviews
> > > > ahout the strength of AI Shogi on DS.(The reviews thems= elves are
> > > > written in Japanese and translated by me.)
> > > >
> > > >  * It's not as strong as AI Shogi for Windows.
= > > > >  * It's not as strong as Bonanza(Free shogi softwa= re).
> > > >  * My father used to be a champion in my town. But he cannot beat
> > > >    AI shogi on DS.
> > > >  * (Since you can adjust the level of the Software= strength from
> > > >     10 kyu to 4 dan,) you can play with compu= ter opponents with
> > > >     various levels.
> > > >
> > > > Just my 5 pence.
> > > > Regards
> > > > Manabu Terao
> > > > kingsley shogi wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Manabu
> > > > >
> > > > > I've noticed there are a couple japanese language shogi games out on
> > the
> > > > > DS:
> > > > >  Appare! Shogi Jisan
> > > > >  Demo Doko Demo Dekiru Shogi: AI Shogi DS
= > > > > >
> > > > > Would you know how strong the AI is on these games= ? As I would be
> > quite
> > > > > interested in buying one of them if they were of reasonable
> > strength.
> > > > >
> > > > > regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Kingsley Pratt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>
> =1B$B;{Hx!!3X=1B(B
> =1B$B>-4}$r@$3&$K9-$a$k2q=1B(B
> http://www.shogi-isps.org
> Email:manabu.terao mx3 ttcn ne jp
> TEL&FAX: 03-3708-5603
>
>
>
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