On 10/10/06, fabien osmont@teambridge ch <fabien osmont@teambridge ch > wrote:

Dear Allen san,

I'm actually also convinced that such software will help making Shogi better known all over the world.
Here, in France, the Shogi community is already speaking about it and we find this news are really valuable in the idea to promote Shogi to beginners.

According of the kind of people regularly interested in Shogi in France, our next hope would be to see a Shogi manga translated in french.
Since "Hikaru no Go" has been translated, the amount of Go players has grown significantly and we do hope that the publication of Gekka no Kishi, Shion no Ou, or any other good Shogi manga would have a similar effect on Shogi.
Let's hope... ;-)

Fabien

Woody Allen < w4allen yahoo co jp> wrote on 10/10/2006 15:56:09: > Hello, > Manabu Terao, Fabien, Kingsley, and shogi fans

>
> I think the reason why Terao wrote this topic is not that the shogi > game included "Clubhouse Games" is strong , but that it is the first > time that non-Japanese edition of shogi game or game including shogi > is sold on Nintendo DS. It may be an entrance to shogi. > It is great that people who don't have known shogi know shogi by > "Clubhouse Games ". > Nintendo DS has 2 screens and 1 screen can be used as a tutorial. It > is kind for beginners, I think. > If they feel that the shogi game of "Clubhouse Games "is not so > strong, we can tell them more strong shogi programs (e.g. > "Bonanza"), "Shogi Club 24" , and " Shogi.net".
>
> Allen (a Japanese shogi fan) > "To spread Shogi over the world" > http://w1allen.wordpress.com/ > ---If there is something wrong or unclear, please inform me it.---
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: fabien.osmont teambridge ch
> To: shogi topica com
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:09 PM
> Subject: RE: Nintendo DS software incl. shogi( about Shogi Jisan)
> > > PS: I've also tested Shogi Jisan. > Forget it definitely. It's nice for beginners but very quick to beat. > I always played quickly and without strong concentration against > this software and beat it with level "1 Dan". > > My (other) 2 pences > > Fabien :-) > > manabu.terao mx3 ttcn ne jp wrote on 09/10/2006 14:05:46: > > > > > Hello Kingsley, > > > > I never played Doko Demo Dekiru Shogi:AI Shogi DS nor AI Shogi for > > Windows. > > > > According to several user review pages, I found the following reviews > > ahout the strength of AI Shogi on DS.(The reviews themselves are > > written in Japanese and translated by me.) > > > > * It's not as strong as AI Shogi for Windows. > > * It's not as strong as Bonanza(Free shogi software). > > * My father used to be a champion in my town. But he cannot beat > > AI shogi on DS. > > * (Since you can adjust the level of the Software strength from > > 10 kyu to 4 dan,) you can play with computer opponents with > > various levels. > > > > Just my 5 pence. > > Regards > > Manabu Terao > > kingsley shogi wrote: > > > > > > Hi Manabu > > > > > > I've noticed there are a couple japanese language shogi games out on the > > > DS: > > > Appare! Shogi Jisan > > > Demo Doko Demo Dekiru Shogi: AI Shogi DS > > > > > > Would you know how strong the AI is on these games? As I would be quite > > > interested in buying one of them if they were of reasonable strength. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Kingsley Pratt > > > > > >