From: Aquinaswannabe <at> hotmail <dot> com
Date: 11 may 2006
Subject: RE: Playing without komadai (read this instead)

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fabien.osmont <at> teambridge <dot> ch wrote:
> Answer is then, to my mind, yes you can put your pieces directly on the=
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> table without disturbing the rules and your oponent. If you are playing=
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> a floor, you can even put them on the floor.
> On the pictures, you actually see people NOT putting pieces on a komadai=
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> or anything else. That's what I wanted to illustrate and though you were=
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> able to notice it.
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> Hope it'll help you to find a way to play Shogi. Playing is probably the=
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> most important of all :-)
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> Rgds
>         Fab
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> Aquinaswannabe <at> hotmail <dot> com wrote on 11/05/2006 11:31:33:
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> > Pardon me, I'm not entirely sure what your answer is because the=20
> > websites you gave me have examples of both using and not using komadai=
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> > and/or piece boxes.
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> > Sorry if I'm persistent with my questions.
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> > Perhaps a simple yes or no answer would clear things up.
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> > Again, my question is: Again, my question is: If I'm playing on a=20
> > tabletop board, can I also not use any komadai or piece container, and=
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> > just put the captured pieces on the table, within an area next to the=
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> > board?
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> > fabien.osmont <at> teambridge <dot> ch wrote:
> > > See the guy on the right side, here:=20
> > > http://shogi.alsace.free.fr/images/photos/tourn05/daniel_eddy.jpg
> > > And here: http://shogi.alsace.free.fr/images/photos/tourn05/gedda.jpg=

> > >=20
> > > I think you have confirmation of my answer.
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> > > Rgds
> > >         Fabien
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> > > Aquinaswannabe <at> hotmail <dot> com wrote on 11/05/2006 09:25:19:
> > >=20
> > > > Wait, the photos you show show people using Komadai and/or piece=
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> boxes.=20
> > > > Again, my question is: If I'm playing on a tabletop board, can I=
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> also=20
> > > > not use any komadai or piece container, and just put the captured=
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> pieces=20
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> > >=20
> > > > on the table, within an area next to the board?
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> > > > fabien.osmont <at> teambridge <dot> ch wrote:
> > > > > That's actually what is generally done during amateur games.
> > > > > For example, you can see the lastest Colmar tournament here:=20
> > > > > http://shogi.alsace.free.fr/ephotos05.htm
> > > > >=20
> > > > > Aquinaswannabe <at> hotmail <dot> com wrote on 11/05/2006 05:13:28:
> > > > >=20
> > > > > > If I'm playing on a tabletop board, can I also not use any=20
> komadai=20
> > > or=20
> > > > > > piece container, and just put the captured pieces on the table,=
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> > > within=20
> > > > > > an area next to the board?
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> > > > > > Adam wrote:
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> > > > > > > Hallo,
> > > > > > > it's hollow part down indeed. Using piece container as komada=
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> > > photo=20
> > > > > may=20
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> > > > > > > be seen on http://www.shogi.sk/pub/2.jpg
> > > > > > > In case you didn't read it yet, imho interesting article(s)=
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> about=20
> > > > > shogi=20
> > > > > > > have been published in Japan foundation newsletter (Shogi in=
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> the=20
> > > > > > > Limelight,=20
> http://www.jpf.go.jp/e/publish/jfn/pdf/jfn26_5.pdf).
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > Adam
> > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > I wonder where my $HOME is
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> > > > > > > Aquinaswannabe <at> hotmail <dot> com wrote:
> > > > > > > > When you use the top and bottom of the piece container as=
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> > > komadai,=20
> > > > > do=20
> > > > > > > > you place the part of the piece container so that the hollo=
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> > > part=20
> > > > > faces=20
> > > > > > > > downward?  (Sorry for being over-specific).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Woody Allen wrote:
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> > > > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> One can play the game without using actual komadai in=20
> casual=20
> > > games.
> > > > > > > >> But there are important manners.
> > > > > > > >> 1. One has to show all the pieces that one captured.
> > > > > > > >> 2. Don't reverse pieces that one captured.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> In my case, when I don't have komadai, I use the top part=
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> and=20
> > > the=20
> > > > > bottom=20
> > > > > > > >>=20
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> part of the pieces container as komadai.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Allen (a Japanese shogi fan)
> > > > > > > >> http://w1allen.wordpress.com/
> > > > > > > >> ---If there is something wrong or unclear, please inform m=
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> > > it.---
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> > > > > > > >> From: <Aquinaswannabe <at> hotmail <dot> com>
> > > > > > > >> To: <shogi <at> topica <dot> com>
> > > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 2:02 PM
> > > > > > > >> Subject: Playing without komadai
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> I'm sorry if I'm being too particular with the minor=20
> details of=20
> > > the
> > > > > > > >> game.  Rest assured that I love the game itself very much,=
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> and=20
> > > is=20
> > > > > why
> > > > > > > >> I'm drawn to ask these questions in the first place.  I'm=
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> also=20
> > > > > trying to
> > > > > > > >> learn the details of etiquettes and accessories of the=20
> game.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Can one play the game without using actual komadai?  If so=
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> > > where=20
> > > > > does
> > > > > > > >> one put the pieces if he plays without komadai?
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