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It is quite an elaborate system, indeed. Now, I may be mistaken, but= i=3D f=20 memory serves I believe the shogi handicap is usually only used in friend= =3D ly=20 games. Professional games rarely get handicaps... I think there is only = =3D a=20 handful every year and it's only for exhibition games at that.=3D20

When playing friendly games the handicap is adjusted every four wins= i=3D n=20 a row, if I recall. I have never seen any handicap system as intense as t= =3D he=20 one for Go. But anyone can feel free to correct me.

So to answer your question, Steve....... no..... :)

(at least... not that I've ever seen)

Shumby

On 5/4/06, B=3D ruce Lindsey < yahoo com"'>balindsey@yahoo=3D .com>= =20 wrote:=20

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The Ju= bang=3D=20 o handicap system used in go uses
alternating handicaps as=20 follows:

tagaisen:  even match (alternate=20 black-white)

sen-ai-s=3D en:  weaker takes black in 2 = of 3=20 games

josen:  =3D weaker takes black in all=20 games

sen-ni-sen:  weaker takes =3D black twice,=20 two-stone
handicap once in 3 games

ni-sen-ni:  wea= ker=20 takes two-stone handicap twice,
bla=3D ck once in 3=20 games.

joni:  weaker takes two-stone handicap=3D all= =20 games

ni-san-ni:  three-stone handicap once, two-ston= =3D=20 e
handicap twice in 3 games.

san-ni-san:  three-st= one=20 handicap twice, two-stone
han=3D dicap once in 3 games.

jo= =20 san:  three-stone handicap all g=3D ames

etc, etc.
=
I=20 was wondering more about the ten-game match<=3D br>tradition and = if it=20 existed in shogi than about the
handicaps, but the elaborate handic= ap=20 system used in
Jubango intrigu=3D ed me, too.

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> On 5/= 3/06,=20 Bruce Lindsey =3D < yahoo com"'>balindsey@yahoo com>
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> > I was= rea=3D=20 ding at Sensei's Library about the
> Jubango
> > traditi= on .=3D=20 ..
> >
> > http://senseis.xmp.net/?JubangoHandicaps
> >
> = >=3D=20 ... and was wondering if a similar tradition has
> ever
> &= gt;=3D=20 existed in shogi?
> >
> > Especially, I was wonderin= g at=20 how shogi would> handle
> > the very fine handicap= =20 distinctions used in
&=3D gt; Junbango
> > matches, sin= ce=20 "regular" handicaps in s=3D hogi
> *already*
> > used (= some)=20 alternating handicaps.
> =3D >
> > Anyone know? = I=20 googled for "jubanshogi&qu=3D ot; and got
> >=20 nothing.  Perhaps there was a similar tr=3D adition
> w= ith a=20
> > different naming convention?
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