From: Manabu Terao mx3 ttcn ne jp> Date: 02 mar 2006 Subject: Re: Time limits Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Get your VoIP on with Packet8's Videophone. Crystal clear images of your loved ones. Free Month. 30 day money back guarantee. 1-877-868-1135 http://click.topica.com/= caaexdTa2i6YsbnuqMaa/ TMONE ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello Steve, Bogin and all, =20 Time limits of professional shogi is different between using a chess-clock (often seen in TV shogi matches) and using a stopwatch(often seen in most= =20 of other matches). In case of a chess-clock, byoyomi will occur after a=20 player consumes the given time and 30 seconds byoyomi is pretty standard in TV shogi matches. In case of stopwatch, a player will lose if he/she=20 consumes all of the given time. So boyomi will occur before he/she consumes= =20 it, for example, at the point when 15 minutes is left. The player can ask= =20 the recordkeeper to do byoyomi whenever he/she would like him to do so when= the time limit approaches. In this case, 60 seconds byoyomi is a standard= =20 since the minimum unit of time consumption is a minute and thinking time= =20 less than 60 seconds per move is neglected or not counted. In Osho title match, each player has 8 hours. It is not a wonder to use almost 2 hours to make a move. According to the record, Kazushiza Horiguchi= 7 dan consumed 5 hours and 24 minutes to make a move last year. Manabu Terao bogin yahoo co jp> wrote: > I believe in most title matches the players have a certain ammount of tim= e > to complete the game. When they use their alloted time, they move into > "byo-yomi" where each player has to make a move within so many seconds (3= 0 > seconds is pretty standard). So, often a player can aford to take two hou= rs > or so per move because the amount of time they may have to finish the gam= e > before they enter "byo-yomi" > =1B$B!!=1B(Bmay be 4, 6 or even 8 hours.=20 >=20 > Unlike chess, in shogi you are not required to make a certain number of > moves within a certain time period. Time forfeits are pretty rare and mos= t > players usually use up most of their alloted time. Often, you can get an > idea of the amount of time each player has per game by checking the times= > listed for the final moves. >=20 > In the game you mentioned, Habu resigned 7:45 into the game so that means= > each player was probably given 8 hours for the game. >=20 > Bill Gaudry >=20 > --- Steve Polley yahoo com> =1B$B$+$i$N%a%C%;!<%8!'=1B(B > >=20 > > Would someone please explain how the time limits work in a Shogi > > match?=20=20 > > What is confusing me is this- according to Reijer's analysis of game > > 5=20 > > of the current Osho match, Habu took almost 2 hours to play the 11th= =20 > > move- (PxP.) If this were a western chess match, Habu would already > > be=20 > > in almost surely fatal time trouble. (And my favorite chess player is > >=20 > > Kasparov- so I've seen a Grandmaster in time trouble alot!) So how= =20 > > does Shogi differ in this respect? > >=20 Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Small Business Virtual Office VoIP Phone System. Big Business Functionality for a Small Business Telephone price. Packet8 Business Sales 1-877-868-1135 http://click.topica.com/= caaexd2a2i6YsbnuqMaf/ TMONE ------------------------------------------------------------------- --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: = shogi-l shogi net EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a2i6Ys.= bnuqMa.= c2hvZ2kt Or send an email to: shogi-unsubscribe topica com For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=3DTEXFOOTER --^----------------------------------------------------------------