From: Gergely Buglyo hotmail com> Date: 26 jun 2006 Subject: RE: Looking up kanji for promoted silver Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Here=92s your chance to tell some of the most important names in=20 retailing and household products what=92s on your mind. You could win=20 a free iPod Nano by signing up for our new consumer opinion panel=20 and filling out a brief survey. http://click.topica.com/= caaeTvOa2i6YsbnuqMaa/ HomeWorldResearch ------------------------------------------------------------------- >From: Adam Skalny shogi sk> >Reply-To: shogi topica com >To: shogi-l topica com> >Subject: Looking up kanji for promoted silver >Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:33:09 +0200 > >Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: >------------------------------------------------------------------- >WIN A GAULEY OVERNIGHT RAFTING TRIP FOR TWO. >Enjoy two days of world-class whitewater with >a night of deluxe riverside camping in between. >http://click.topica.com/caaeUaEa2i6YsbpZgnua/ NAAR >------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Dear shogi funs, > >Time of our next shogi presentation is near -- next weekend^^. Now i am= =20 >recreating shogi set help: paper with piece names in Slovak, Japanese, all= =20 >piece related rules, piece kanji from actual set, and its move pattern. > >I have troubles with kanji for narugin. On sets used in presentation, it= =20 >has "kin"-like kanji with four horizontal strokes, but i can not find such= =20 >kanji in a dictionary -- thought it's radical was JIN (person), but i had= =20 >no luck:-( In wikipedia article about shogi, narugins kanji is ZEN (all) -= -=20 >only three horizontal strokes. > >Sorry for this awkward description, here's a picture to clarify it^_^:=20 >http://shogi.sk/pub/narukin.png -- red's on my sets, black is closest matc= h=20 >i've found (kanji from wikipedia article). > >Do you know this red kanji, please? > >Thank You very much for help. > >Best regards >Adam I think the characters for the promoted silver, knight and lance all mean= =20 "gold", except the style gets more and more cursive and artistic towards th= e=20 edge of the board (so, the character for promoted lance is much less=20 reckognizable than promoted silver, but both mean "gold" nonetheless). I'm not really into calligraphy but I think they call this style "sousho" i= n=20 Japan. In this style, you don't paint the whole character, only the part= =20 that is artistically important. It's not easy to read either, even for a= =20 Japanese. I used to think that the hiragana "to" on the tokin fits in the same=20 pattern: an even more simplified version of the kanji "kin". But my shogi= =20 teacher in Aomori told me otherwise: he said that "to" used to mean "fake"= =20 in old Japanese, so "to-kin" means "fake gold", and the character here=20 really is "to", not a cursive "kin". Hope that helped you a bit! Gergely _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE!= =20 http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- WIN A GAULEY OVERNIGHT RAFTING TRIP FOR TWO. Enjoy two days of world-class whitewater with a night of deluxe riverside camping in between. http://click.topica.com/= caaeUaEa2i6YsbnuqMaf/ NAAR ------------------------------------------------------------------- --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: = shogi-l shogi net EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a2i6Ys.= bnuqMa.= c2hvZ2kt Or send an email to: shogi-unsubscribe topica com For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=3DTEXFOOTER --^----------------------------------------------------------------