From: bogin yahoo co jp> Date: 23 feb 2006 Subject: Re: bonanza Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Shopping for a new car?=20 Pay 2-3% below invoice on a new car of your choice.=20 Save thousands with our free car discount finder service! http://click.topica.com/= caaerMma2i6YsbnuqMaa/Dealix ------------------------------------------------------------------- Sounds like a very strong program. Does anyone still have the link where you can get download it? By the way, when you say pro 1 Dan and pro 2 Dan are you refering to=20 female pros? There are no male 1 or 2 Dan pros. They only become pros when they are promoted to 4 dan out of the Shoreikai. However, I think female pros begin at 2 kyu. Regadless, it sounds quite strong. Bill Gaudry --- Larry Kaufman comcast net> =1B$B$+$i$N%a%C%;!<%8!'=1B(B > Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Packet8 Digital Phones Service can save you up to > $999 annually on your phone bill! First Month Free! > Free Activation! Save $110 instantly. Wow. 1-877-868-1135 > http://click.topica.com/caaer6la2i6Ysa7fLJaa/ TMONE > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Perhaps you missed all the emails a few months ago about Bonanza. > In=20 > Japan the computer shogi people told me that Bonanza was considered > to be on=20 > the same level as the top four programs in the computer shogi > tournaments,=20 > but that it was very different from the others, in that it is > patterned=20 > after chess programs much more so than the other programs. They > explained=20 > that when the pc ran at much slower speeds a decade ago this approach > was=20 > not competitive, but at current pc speeds it is. This was confirmed > when a=20 > kyu player told me that he was able to win about one out of three or > four=20 > games from Bonanza, but it turned out that he was running it on a ten > year=20 > old computer. > Since the top pc shogi programs have SC24 ratings in the 2400 > vicinity,=20 > presumably Bonanza would also have such a rating on a fast pc, which=20 > corresponds to five Dan on their scale and probably to six Dan in > most shogi=20 > clubs. I think it's about equal to Pro 1 or 2 Dan. > My own experience is that if I leave it on the default of 5" per > move,=20 > but take plenty of time myself, I can sometimes win, but if I give it > 30"=20 > per move and play about that speed myself, I have hardly any chance. > Mr.=20 > Yoshinari, our local Japanese amateur 4 Dan, plays it often on the 5" > level=20 > (taking perhaps three or four times that himself), and wins about one > out of=20 > ten. > So I guess this all agrees with your experience. >=20 > Larry Kaufman >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Chiaki Ito" mail com> > To: topica com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 5:57 AM > Subject: bonanza >=20 >=20 > > dear guys > > > > hi. just a quick question. do you guys know anything about the > strength=20 > > of a program called bonanza? will it compete in the computer shogi >=20 > > championship? i played it several times but it is quite good. got > to=20 > > play many times to beat it. hahaha. > > > > best > > > > chiaki ito > >=20 >=20 > Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Shopping for a new car?=20 > Pay 2-3% below invoice on a new car of your choice.=20 > Save thousands with our free car discount finder service! > http://click.topica.com/caaerMma2i6Ysa7fLJaf/Dealix > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 -------------------------------------- GANBARE! NIPPON! Yahoo! JAPAN JOC OFFICIAL INTERNET PORTAL SITE PARTNER http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/ganbare-nippon/ Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Small Business Virtual Office VoIP Phone System. Big Business Functionality for a Small Business Telephone price. Packet8 Business Sales 1-877-868-1135 http://click.topica.com/= caaer6Fa2i6YsbnuqMaf/ TMONE ------------------------------------------------------------------- --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: = shogi-l shogi net EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a2i6Ys.= bnuqMa.= c2hvZ2kt Or send an email to: shogi-unsubscribe topica com For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=3DTEXFOOTER --^----------------------------------------------------------------