From: Reijer Grimbergen <grim <at> yz <dot> yamagata-u <dot> ac <dot> jp>
Date: 26 oct 2005
Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Weblive info - Ryuoh sen

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Another explanation with a game example (different moves, but the same=20
idea) is here:

http://gamelab.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/SHOGI/GAMES/62meijin3.html

Summarizing, losing an extra move means that white doesn't have to push=20
the pawn to 8e, which gives the important attacking option of N8e later=20
in the game.

Reijer

Manabu Terao wrote:

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> Hello Steve,
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> OK. Let me try to explain.  Can you please see the position of 32nd move(=
S-5d)?
> Both made 16 moves there. It was a position that Black's formation was=
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> completely the same as White's ones except for how far both rook pawns ad=
vanced.
> Black's rook pawn advanced two squares while White's rook pawn did only o=
ne
> square which clearly shows White lost a tempo somewhere before. It was ca=
used by
> White's Bx8h+ to exchange bishops. In general, bishop exchange to begin w=
ith
> Bx2b+ or Bx8h+ causes the first bishop taker to lose a tempo since the se=
cond
> bishop taker's silver can go one move earlier with taking back the bishop=
.
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> Hope this clarifies.
> Manabu Terao
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> Steve Polley <sepolley <at> yahoo <dot> com> wrote:
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>>Manabu- Thank you for the information.  I wonder- how is it that white=
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>>loses a tempo in the bishop exchange?  White is already a move behind=20
>>because of moving second.  After white takes the bishop and black=20
>>recaptures with the silver- I don't see where white loses a move.=20=20
>>Thanks again.
>>Manabu Terao wrote:
>>
>>>Hello Shogi fans,
>>>
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>>>As of now, Watanabe lost 1 move to exchange bishops in the early stage.
>>>
>>>Have fun
>>>Manabu Terao
>>>
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Reijer Grimbergen
Department of Informatics, Yamagata University
Jonan 4-3-16, Yonezawa, 992-8510 Japan
Tel: +81-(0)238-26-3740  FAX: +81-(0)238-26-3299
http://gamelab.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/

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