From: bogin yahoo co jp> Date: 12 dec 2005 Subject: Re: November Tokyo Amatuer Ratings List Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Make phone calls with phone service from Packet8.Order VoIP today & get Free Activation, Free Equipment & First Month=20 Free! Packet8 30-day money back guarantee. 1-877-868-1135 http://click.topica.com/= caaegt4a2i6YsbnuqMaa/ TMONE ------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr. Kaufman, Here is the page I have been looking at http://homepage2.nifty.com/toushouren/rankingtop.htm The List is divided into 6 parts. Part 1: players ranked 1-1124 Part 2: players ranked 1124-2250 Part 3: players ranked 2250-3389 Part 4: players ranked 3389-4520 Part 5: players ranked 4520-5655 Part 6: players ranked 5655-6448 The columns at the top of each list are (left to right) 1. list rank 2. membership number 3. member's name 4. number of games played in a month (probably the month since the list list was put out. So, the current list might include the games from October= 2005) 5. rating increase (decrease are given by negative numbers) 6. rating 7. total number of games played (probably since a person became a member). Mr. Jenson is on Part 3 of the list. His numbers are: 1. 2600 2. 5700 4. 7 5. 8 6. 1508 7. 7 You are on Part 3. Your numbers are: 1. 3128 2. 5307 4. 11 5. -20 6. 1495 7. 23 Your son is on Part 5. His numbers are: 1. 5226 2. 5308 4. 15 5. -16 6. 1419 7. 33 I could not find the name Nguyen on the list. There is, however, a N.Antowa= (I do not know the correct speeling of this person's name) listed on Part 4. Maybe the "N" stands for Nguyen. N. Antowa's numbers are: 1. 4427 2. 5699 4. 5 5. -38 6. 1462 7. 5 Bill Gaudry --- Larry Kaufman comcast net> =1B$B$+$i$N%a%C%;!<%8!'=1B(B > Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Make phone calls with phone service from Packet8.Order VoIP > today & get Free Activation, Free Equipment & First Month=20 > Free! Packet8 30-day money back guarantee. 1-877-868-1135 > http://click.topica.com/caaegt4a2i6Ysa7fLJaa/ TMONE > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Thanks, but I'm puzzled. I do now get the new list, but none of > the=20 > ratings you mention show any games played in the first column (I > assume=20 > that's the number of games played since the previous list??). All the > names=20 > are unreadable on my computer, so could you tell me the other numbers > in the=20 > columns for the three names (there should also be a rating for > Nguyen) so I=20 > can find the names? The ratings you mention for my son and for Mr. > Jenson=20 > sound about right, but I was told that my rating should have gone way > up,=20 > not down, so I have to find out what went wrong. >=20 > Thanks, Larry >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "bogin" yahoo co jp> > To: topica com> > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 4:45 AM > Subject: Re: November Tokyo Amatuer Ratings List >=20 >=20 > Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Is your computer freezing up or slowing down? > Repair corrupt files and harmful errors - protect your PC > Take a 2-minute PC health check-up at no charge! > http://click.topica.com/caaegt3a2i6Ysa7fLLna/PC PowerScan > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Mr. Kaufman, >=20 > I only have the address I got from this site. It says the rating list > is > current as of November 1, 2005. Maybe you just need to refresh your > page > and then the new list will appear. >=20 > I believe your rating is 1495. It went down 20 points since the last > list. > Your son's rating is also went down. I believe his rating is between > 1419. > I saw one other western looking name on the list. A Mr./Ms. Jenson. > That > person's rating is around 1505. >=20 > The list has quite a lot of players so it is divided up into parts. I > think > you are around 2600 on the list so that's the part you should check. > Your > son is on the next list after yours. >=20 > Bill Gaudry >=20 >=20 > --- Larry Kaufman comcast net> =1B$B$+$i$N%a%C%;!<%8!'=1B(B > > Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Make phone calls with phone service from Packet8.Order VoIP > > today & get Free Activation, Free Equipment & First Month > > Free! Packet8 30-day money back guarantee. 1-877-868-1135 > > http://click.topica.com/caaegt4a2i6Ysa7fLJaa/ TMONE > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > When I go to the address I listed previously, I get the same > > list that > > has been up for a long time, which apparently does not have the > > results of > > the western players who played there recently. Please tell me what > > address > > you went to, and what ratings and number of games appeared to be of > > western > > players (I had twelve games from many years ago). > > > > Thanks, Larry > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > > From: "bogin" yahoo co jp> > > To: topica com> > > Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 2:24 AM > > Subject: November Tokyo Amatuer Ratings List > > > > > > Mr. Kaufman > > > > Speaking of the Tokyo Amateur Rating List, the November list is up > on > > their > > web page. I believe this includes the results from the games that > you > > mentioned below. > > > > Bill Gaudry > > > > --- Larry Kaufman comcast net> =1B$B$+$i$N%a%C%;!<%8!'=1B(B > > > Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Make phone calls with phone service from Packet8.Order VoIP > > > today & get Free Activation, Free Equipment & First Month > > > Free! Packet8 30-day money back guarantee. 1-877-868-1135 > > > http://click.topica.com/caaegt4a2i6Ysa7fLJaa/ TMONE > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > I would just like to add, regarding the Okachimachi Shogi > > > Center, that > > > on average as Martin says, "The strength of the players is a > little > > > above > > > medium", but the number of extremely strong players is by far the > > > highest of > > > any club in the world. On just one day there, I was paired with a > > > national > > > title-holder in one game and a Professional 3 Dan in another! > Also, > > > the > > > players have the option to play rated games (Tokyo Amateur rating > > > system) > > > with clocks, which several of us Westerners did. So, this is the > > club > > > I > > > recommend to serious Dan-level players who want the maximum > > > challenge. > > > > > > Larry Kaufman > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > > > From: "DANERUD MARTIN" comhem se> > > > To: topica com> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:49 PM > > > Subject: Some comments about shogi dojos, clubs and centers in > > Tokyo > > > > > > > > > Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Make phone calls with phone service from Packet8.Order VoIP > > > today & get Free Activation, Free Equipment & First Month > > > Free! Packet8 30-day money back guarantee. 1-877-868-1135 > > > http://click.topica.com/caaegt4a2i6Ysa7fLLna/ TMONE > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Dear shogi friends, > > > > > > I have spent the last months in Tokyo, and there have been some > > good > > > occasions to play shogi. In this e-mail, I would like to > summarize > > my > > > experiences from shogi dojos, clubs and centers in Tokyo, since I > > > know > > > that several visitors to Japan often like to enjoy their > favourite > > > game > > > over the board in a genuine environment. > > > I have mainly played at four different places, which I describe > > > below: > > > The shogi center at Shogi Kaikan in Sendaygaya > > > How to go there? Get off at Sendagaya station on the JR Sobu > line. > > > Walk straight after leaving the station exit with a sports center > > on > > > your left-hand side. Continue straight even though the street > turns > > a > > > little to the right. Then you will come to a shinto shrine. Turn > > left > > > and walk one hundred meters along the shrine area and then turn > > > right, > > > still following the shrine area. After 50 meters, you will find > > Shogi > > > Kaikan on your left-hand side. > > > This place has a lot of advantages. There is the shop on the > first > > > floor with shogi sets, books, and everything and you can also > find > > > the > > > editorial staff of Shogi Sekkai as well as the Nihon Shogi Renmei > > > office and the professional shogi scene. The shogi center itself > on > > > 2F > > > is nice and clean. Smoking is limited. In all shogi centers the > > > players > > > pay a daily fee of around 1000 yen. There are children and women > > > among > > > the players. Unfortunately, there are not so many players > > regularly, > > > just occasionally. > > > The strength of the players is medium. The drawback is that if > > there > > > are few players, then it will be difficult to get opponents at > your > > > own > > > level. > > > Shinjuku Shogi Center > > > How to go there? Get off at Shinjuku station and go out at the > East > > > Exit, Kabukichou exit. There you will see the big Studio Alta > > screen. > > > Walk straight, passing the Studio Alta screen on the left side, > > until > > > you reach a big street. Cross the street and turn to the right. > You > > > will then walk along the big street at the left-hand side walk. > > > Continue until the end of the block and go to 5F just before a > > Family > > > Mart store. > > > This place is big. There are always a lot of players from 10 a.m. > > > until 12 p.m. However, the players are generally old with just a > > > handful of players below 40. The shogi organisation is handled > very > > > well, but the general feeling is a little bit rough, not so fresh > > and > > > very smoky. > > > The strength of the players is a little below medium, but on the > > > other > > > hand, every player with maximum 4-dan will always be paired with > > > players of suitable strength, since there are always a lot of > > players > > > around. However, a decrease in the number of players can be noted > > > compared to ten years ago. > > > Okachimachi Shogi Center > > > How to go there? Get off at Okachimachi station at the Yamanote > > line > > > and go out at the South Exit. Then turn left 180 degrees and > follow > > > the > > > train tracks (on the outside of the station) around 50 meters and > > you > > > will find the center on 4F on your right-hand side. > > > This place is relatively big. There are generally around 50 > players > > > until they close at 10 p.m. The players are old gentlemen with > just > > a > > > few players below 40. The shogi organisation is a little more > > > informal > > > than at Shinjuku Shogi Center, but the place is nice, clean and > > fresh > > > with a Western style toilet (Westerners who have been in Tokyo > know > > > what I mean). > > > The strength of the players is a little above medium. Most of the > > > games are following opening theory longer than you will > experience > > > anywhere else, and the players keep good shape in their games. > That > > > makes the games more valuable, and the general attitude of the > > > players > > > is more analytical after the games than elsewhere. > > > The local shogi club (in my case at Shin-Koiwa) > > > How to go there? There are several smaller, local clubs in Tokyo. > > > This > > > particular club can be found by going to Shin-Koiwa station on > the > > > Sobu > > > line and go out at the South exit. Then go left and cross a busy > > > street > > > by taking stairs up and down. Then just follow the street > eastwards > > > along the train tracks, and you will find the shogi club on the > > left- > > > hand side after 200 meters on 1F. The club is, typically, small > > with > > > around ten very regular players. The daily fee can be lower at > > local > > > clubs. > > > The general structure of the local clubs, on the other hand, is > > often > > > similar. The playing strength is often very unevenly distributed. > > > Often > > > one player is dominating with around 4-dan. The rest of the > players > > > are > > > weaker. The big advantage with the local club is of course the > > > proximity to where you live. It is easy to sneak in and play for > > just > > > a > > > few hours. The disadvantages are that there are often the same, > few > > > players and opening theory and good shape are seldomly seen. On > the > > > other hand, a glass of beer and a good joke are more common. > > > > > > Generally, in the era of shogi games with players from all over > the > > > world at the Internet and the access to relatively strong PC > > > programs, > > > the number of visitors to shogi centers and unfortunately also > the > > > number of shogi centers are decreasing. The visitors are also > > ageing > > > gradually. Many persons whom I have talked to say that they > simply > > > save > > > money by staying at home and play shogi at the computer. With > daily > > > fees of around 1000 yen and travelling costs around 500 yen and > > maybe > > > the additional cost of dining out at a restaurant makes, not the > > > occasional visit but the regular, in many cases daily, visits, > > > expensive. > > > On the positive side is of course the genuine environment, the > nice > > > atmosphere with either a good post-mortem analysis or a good > laugh. > > > My > > > personal feeling is that all kind of Internet activities at home, > > > however interesting, will make you tired in the end. One may also > > be > > > tired after playing shogi at shogi dojos, clubs and centers, but > > > there > > > are always new experiences and new impressions that will be > > > stimulating > > > and give some additional energy in the end. 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