From: Daniel Toebbens gmx de> Date: 8 aug 2005 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_Shogi_Time_controls?= Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Oreo's Take our Nationwide Oreo Survey. Receive a Free* Restaurant Gift card of your choice or a one year=20 supply of Oreo's. Hurry, limited time only!=20 http://click.topica.com/= caadOvJa2i6YsbnuqMaa/CookieSurvey ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > What are the time controls- i.e. how many moves in how much time- in a= =20 > tournament shogi game? And what is byooyomi and how does it work? Thank= =20 > you. I do appreciate this forum to have my questions answered. >=20 Well, the term 'byoyomi' =3D=3D 'second counting' is kind of complicated, s= ince it is used in various way. Here is what I managed to slice together from various sources: As Larry wrote, in western shogi 'byoyomi' is used normally for the phase o= f the game where you used up your fixed time and have to make each move in a given time.=20 But the term originally derived from the traditional japanese time counting= system, were your time is divided up into time slots. Every time you use up= one of your time slots completely it is removed from your total tiome. But if your move is finished before the end of the time slot, no time at all is= removed. The number of time slots would relate to how much yo uare allowed to violate the 'byoyomi' in the western system. Towards the end, when only = a few number of time slots is left, the seconds are counted and this is calle= d 'byoyomi' in the traditional japanese time system.=20 AFAIK nowadays in Japan they often use a fixed time period followed by a byoyomi period, much like in the western byoyomi system. Only in Japan the number of byoyomi time slots might still be more than one. This is the number of times you are allowed to 'violate' the byoyomi which Larry mentioned.=20 Then there is what is called the Canadian byoyomi system. This system is like the 'normal' western system in that you get a fixed time period and afterwards you enter the 'byoyomi'. However, in the 'Canadian system' you= =20 have to make a certain number of moves within the byoyomi period, or else you lose. If you manage to make all the moves required in the byoyomi time period, then you are given a new byoyomi period. --=20 GMX DSL =3D Maximale Leistung zum minimalen Preis! 2000 MB nur 2,99, Flatrate ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl= Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Get $1000.00 Overnight! Fast and Easy! No Credit Checks! Many Lenders are 100% Paperless! Let The Wizard Find the right Lender for you! http://click.topica.com/= caadOuta2i6YsbnuqMaf/911PaydayAdvance ------------------------------------------------------------------- --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: = shogi-l shogi net EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a2i6Ys.= bnuqMa.= c2hvZ2kt Or send an email to: shogi-unsubscribe topica com For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=3DTEXFOOTER --^----------------------------------------------------------------