From: Eric macshogi com> Date: 31 aug 2004 Subject: Re: Results from Shogi ESC WOSC 2004 in Munich / Germany Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Save on inkjet and toner, and get free shipping on orders over $50. http://click.topica.com/= caacAsfa2i6YsbnuqMaa/Inksoutlet ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello, I have taken a look at all the photographs, Jochen ! You have done a great job with all the organization. Well done :-) It=20 is not an easy task ! Looking at the final table, I was wondering about 2 points about rules=20 and pairings : 1. qualification rules for the EC Can somebody (Martin ?) remind to me the rules to qualify for the ESC ? One of the points is that players must have a confirmed elo to be=20 eligible in the 32 happy players. In july 2000, Yoshuyuki Uemura was not allowed to play in the ESC=20 because he didn't have a confirmed elo : he had only 6 official games=20 played on the 1st july 2000 officlal elo list. On the "last" real time elo list (from the 14 march 2004 :-((, Tashiro=20 Hideki has the same number of official games as Yoshiyuki in 2000. And=20 Tashiro Hideki was allowed to play in the 2004 ESC ! Has this rule been changed since july 2000 or is it just a miss ? 2. Pairing rules From round 6 of the WOSC, all pairings are done using the swiss pairing= =20 system. On the final table, it is clear that Gert Scnhider has been deserved by=20 the actual pairings. Unfortunately for his final place in the=20 tournament, he has been paired twice against a player with a number of=20 points lower than his. For round 6, he had 3 points and has played a 2=20 points player. And on round 7, he had 4 points and has played a 3=20 points player. Playing twice in two consecutive rounds against a played=20 with a lower number of points is not allowed in the swiss pairing=20 system. For round 7, another 4 points player should have been chosen=20 for playing against the 3 points player. This point is really important as it has an influence for the final=20 results. With a fair pairing system, Gert could have ended one or two=20 places higher. I have not looked at other examples or other possibles=20 problems in the pairings. Fortunately, the 32 players direct knock out system prevents this kind=20 of unfair pairings. Best wishes, =C9ric ---------------- Study Shogi and read shogi reportages at http://eric.macshogi.com/ The first Mac OS X Shogi Database Program at http://www.macshogi.com/ Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- RE-GROW YOUR HAIR STARTING NOW.....Click here for more info! http://click.topica.com/= caacxyda2i6YsbnuqMaf/Medical Hair Restoration ------------------------------------------------------------------- --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: = shogi-l shogi net EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a2i6Ys.= bnuqMa.= c2hvZ2kt Or send an email to: shogi-unsubscribe topica com For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=3DTEXFOOTER --^----------------------------------------------------------------