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Free Shipping on orders over $49. www.inksoutlet.com http://click.topica.com/= caacAsfa2i6Ysbn8jDxa/Inksoutlet ------------------------------------------------------------------- In Shukan Shogi, it is reported that an amateur won in the 1st round if=20 the Ginga-sen Tournament. The only significance is that apparently it is= =20 the first time an amateur has beaten a current A-level player of the=20 Junisen (The Meijin Challenger League) in a public tournament at an even= =20 game and he did it with the Gote side.. Segawa, Masashi amateur defeated Kubo, Toshiaki 8-dan pro in that=20 game. Kubo is ranked 8th on that ELO list. Bob Richard Sams wrote: > Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Save up to 80% on Inkjet & Toner Supplies. 100% Satisfaction=20 > Guarantee. 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Also, #148 appears to=20 >> start with the character for "woman" (my knowledge of Kanji is very=20 >> limited, so forgive me if I'm wrong), so is this a lady's pro, and if= =20 >> so are any of the other players near the bottom of the list lady pros? >> Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer. >>=20=20 >> Larry Kaufman > > > > There is an explanation below which says: "In this ratings list, women= =20 > professionals, shoreikai members, and amateurs are each included in=20 > the rankings as one person." > As you correctly point out, "amateur" is #127 and "women professional"= =20 > is #148. Shoreikai members (shoreikai-in) are #99 on the list. > > I don't understand this very well - the ratings seem very high.=20 > Perhaps only strong amateurs who play against professionals are taken=20 > into consideration. > > Richard Sams > > Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Buy Stocks and Index Funds for just $4 No Account or Investment=20 > Minimums and No Inactivity Fees Automatically invest weekly or monthly= =20 > and build your future. > http://click.topica.com/caacvgga2i6Ysa7fLJdf/Sharebuilder > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Need cash fast? Get a $500 CASH ADVANCE overnight! 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