From: Leonard Hirsch YAHOO COM> Date: 30 may 2003 Subject: Re: [ISC monthly game] May Results Thank you for the analysis and the comments. It was exciting to have such a win. In the post game analysis Mr Takodori ( I don't know his real name) hypothesized that his initial rook trade for the bishop may have been ill conceived since his king was on the first file and the rook drop on the first file was very dangerous in that case. In most of your move analysis where you were talking of file 2 and 3, I'm sure you were talking about files 7 and 8. The game was 15 minutes and then 1 minute byoyomi, so I wouldn't analyze it too deeply. I don't want to say much about your comments as I'm still a beginner. Thanks for the comments. Leonard Hirsch --- bogin YAHOO CO JP> wrote: > Wow, that's was quite a win by Lenny H H rated only > 884 over Takodori rated > 1951. That's over 1000 points difference in Shogi > Club 24 rating so it's > really quite an upset. > > I looked at the game score and it was very sharp > game. Especially, in the > beginning. Despite his unorthodox castle (I believe > it's called a Yonegawa > Castle) Lenny H H seem to be doing OK and you would > have never guessed that > the rating difference was so great. > > There is a very famous shogi proverb that says when > 2 pieces are being > threatened at the same time sometimes the best thing > to do is not to try > and escape either capture but instead to try and > find a better move. This > game is an excellent example of that proverb in > action. > > I am not sure why Takodori played 72. B4d. Lenny H H > 's 71. N*4e forks both > the silver on 5c and the bishop on 3c. 72. B4h saves > the bishop but after > 73. Nx5c+ 74. Bx5c white's bishop is horribly > placed. It seems to me that > either 72. Px2f or first 72. Bx2h+ followed by 74. > Px2f would have been > much better. > > Doe anyone have any other ideas on what to play > here? > > Also, it seems that idea behind 88. P6e is to open > up the other bishop for > an attack on 1g or 2f. White must have been under > time pressure because > after 89. P8c+ 90. S*8b seems completely useless. > 90. +Bx1c looks pretty > strong and seems to be the only obvious way to > continue the attack. Having > a knight in hand and a knight on 7c means that white > can drop a knight on > 2f with check and then recapture with the other > knight on 3c also with > check. The white pawn on 3f is very strong so it may > be possible to > continue the attack by dropping a silver or gold on > 3g once black's > defending pieces have been stripped away. My > analysis may be wrong but it > appears to offer more chances at keeping the > initiative then 90. S*8b. > > Finally, after 103. P*2f, why try and save the > bishop by 104. B4d? There's > another famous shogi proverb that says speed is much > more important than > material in the endgame. Right now all black has in > hand is a gold and the > only effective place to drop it in order to continue > the attack is on 2e. > While black is taking time capturing the bishop on > 6b, white may have a > chance to attack. > > What about 104. N3c? > > Or, if you really have to move the bishop than why > not play 104. B5c? > > Then after 105. G*2e 106. +Bx2e, 107. Px2e 108. > Kx2e there will be 3 white > pieces hitting the 2f square as opposed to 2 by > black. Black only has a > bishop and pawns in hand and white is once again > threatening to drop pieces > on 2f. After 104. B4d white always seems to be a > move behind. In fact B4d > was played at two points in this game and in both > cases it seems to have > been not so good. > > My analysis undoubtably has lots of holes in it so > I'd be really interested > in hearing any corrections and/or improvements. > > Thanks > Bill Gaudry > > --- Yoshi Niwata SEA UCATV NE JP> > $B$+$i$N%a%C%;!<%8!' (B > > Dear all, > > > > ISC monthly game May was really enjoyable. Thank > you for all > > participants. > > > > The results & kifu is here: > > > http://www2.ucatv.ne.jp/~yukichi.sea/May2003monthlygame.htm > > > > 1) Match of the month : LennyHH vs TAKODORI, > Karakurom vs ownroad > > Lenny HH had a great game against high dan player, > TAKODORI and > > finally won! > > Karakurom brilliantly played with a good tactics > but ownroad never > > gave up > > and finally that effort led him a unbelievable > victory! > > Congratulations for > > all. > > > > 2) Player of the month > > Definitely Lenny HH deserves it !! Congratulation. > > > > > > [Next ISC monthly game] > > 21st June (Sat.) > > Time: 10:00PM (JST) > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html > > (Time difference table) > > Place: "Osaka Dojo" in Shogi Club 24 > > Room: "T Room"(not "R Room" or "F Room") > > > > To join, please e-mail to allen > (aoka milk freemail ne jp) > > > > > > Yoshi Niwata (Leader of ISC) > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Yoshi Niwata > [mailto:yukichi sea ucatv ne jp] > > > Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 9:29 AM > > > To: Shogi-net Shogi Discussion List > > > Subject: [ISC monthly game April] Match Table > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > Sorry for the late information abouth the > monthly game tonight. > > > > > > Here is the schedule and latest information of > the ISC monthly > > > match in May. > > > > > > Date and Place: > > > > > > Date: 17th of May (Saturday) > > > Time: 10:00PM (JST) > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html > > > (Time difference table) > > > Place: "Osaka Dojo" in Shogi Club 24 > > > Room: "T Room"(not "R Room" or "F Room") > > > > > > Notes: > > > > > > (1) Meeting place: > > > 1st game will start at 10:00PM (JST). Please > come to "Osaka Dojo" > > around > > > 9:45PM (JST). If you enter "Osaka Dojo", please > follow "Daruma78" > > and > > > if you first find me, please challenge me then > when it is your > > > turn to move, > > > please resign. > > > In that way, we will be able to chat. > > > > > > I wonder if we will take your time, but it is > necessary in order > > > to hold the > > > match on schedule. I will be in Osaka Dojo at > 9:30PM (JST). Thank > > you in > > > advance. > > > > > > (2) Games: > > > Before the game, please talk with your opponent > about "game > > condition". > > > > > > Games played in "T Room" will automatically be > saved. > > > > > > Please look at "Rules in Dojo" > > > > http://www2.ucatv.ne.jp/~yukichi.sea/RulesDOJO.htm > > > > > > > > > List of paticipants: > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com