From: "Stouten, Pieter [R&D/0467]" PHARMACIA COM> Date: 16 jul 2003 Subject: Re: Copyright of game score On Wed 16 July 8:34 AM, Kazuyuki Iwamoto MY EMAIL NE JP> wrote: > For shogi scores,I believe amatuers's scores are generary not > copyrighted. But those of pro's are not. Those scores are > considerd to be a propaty of JSF and its sponsores such as major > newpapers who publish the scores. > Mr. Onogi of NSR explained to me several years ago that the sponsor (often a newspaper) has the right to publish the score before anybody else does. Afterwards, everybody else is entitled to reproduce it. Maybe the idea is that the game only becomes a historical (and therefore uncopyrightable) fact after it has been published (pretty much like Schroedinger's cat's death ). > If you think all shogi scores ARE NOT copyrighted, try publishing > pro's sores for free or at a cost. I 'm sure you will get sued by > JSF. > That seems extremely unlikely (see preceding paragraph). On Wed 16 Jul 08:56 -0400, Larry Kaufman COMCAST NET> wrote: > Some people have been publishing Pro game scores right here on this > list! Have any of you been sued or even asked not to do this? > Nobody seems to have noticed, but SHOGI-L does not only publish uncommented pro game scores, but also games scores with translated comments. I am referring to Reijer's "This week in Shukan Shogi" series. Now, the original comments *are* copyrighted, but NSR has given SHOGI-L/Shogi.Net explicit permission to publish translations of NSR publications. Ciao, Pieter This communication is intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is legally privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Anyone who receives this message in error should notify the sender immediately and delete it from his or her computer.