From: Sam Sloan ISHIPRESS COM> Date: 15 jul 2003 Subject: Re: Copyright of game score At 11:43 AM 7/15/2003 -0400, Larry Kaufman wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "shogi.de" SHOGI DE> >To: TECHUNIX TECHNION AC IL> >Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:45 AM >Subject: Copyright of game score > > >> >> What I would like to know is: >> >> Why game score of chess is not considered to be a copyrighted >> material? >> >> I know that in the world of chess, game score is not copyrighted and >> hundreds >> of thousands of game score files, maybe even millions, in pgn format is >> publicly available on the internet. A lot of people analyze these games >> and >> make research on chess strategy, and it helped to improve the theory of >> chess. However, because some people strongly insist that shogi game >> score is protected by copyright and distributing the score can be >> illegal >> without copyright holder's consent, people are afraid of exchanging game >> >> score. >> >> If we get a clear answer to the above question, I think we don't have to >> >> be afraid of such claim as exchanging the game score is illegal, and >> exchange game score without any hesitation, thereby making a lot of >> Japanese and international shogi fans happy. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Katsutoshi Seki >> seki (at) ylug.org > > The World Chess Federation (FIDE) seriously examined the >possibility of copywriting chess scores, but gave up the idea. The general >opinion of legal experts who have considered the issue is that the moves of >a chess game are equivalent to the inning by inning scores of a baseball >game or the round by round results of a boxing match. In other words, >freedom of speech gives anyone the right to describe what he has observed in >a sporting match, and therefore no one can be prohibited from reporting the >moves of a chess game anymore than one can be prohibited from describing a >boxing match he watched. I don't know whether this would apply to a game >which had no public spectators and was not broadcast; that rarely happens in >chess. If a shogi game is not broadcast, and none of the people present >choose to give out the moves, then I suppose their could be an argument for >the published game score to be copyright?? > I don't know much about Japanese law, but it is clear that anyone in >the U.S. or most (perhaps all) of Europe would not have any legal problem >with their own countries in freely exchanging game scores of chess or shogi. >Whether a westerner would face a problem under such circumstances if he >visited Japan I couldn't say. > > Larry Kaufman To explain the same points in a different way, historical events cannot be copyrighted. The moves of a chess or shogi game are a historical event, and therefore cannot be copyrighted. The words used to describe a historical event, such as "That was a brilliant move", are copyrightable. In general, only words can be copyrighted. The events or ideas described in those words are not subject to copyright. Sam Sloan