From: "shogi.de" SHOGI DE> Date: 15 jul 2003 Subject: Copyright of game score Hi all, Katsutoshi Seki sent this to me instead to the SHOGI-L. Marc ############################################ Hi, everyone. Every now and then I find Japanese people discussing on the matter of copyright of shogi game score on BBS. For example, a long discussion has been made until recently on this page: http://www.af.wakwak.com/~mtmt/cgi- bin/mibbstest.cgi?mo=p&fo=pro&tn=0030 Most of the discussion fall into the interpretation of Japanese law of copyright, which I would not want to do on this list in English. After all, the interpretation of Japanese law is controversial among Japanese because it is difficult, so how can we discuss it in English? ;) What I would like to know is: Why game score of chess is not considered to be a copyrighted material? I googled up for a while but couldn't find a page answering this question. I know that in the world of chess, game score is not copyrighted and hundreds of thousands of game score files, maybe even millions, in pgn format is publicly available on the internet. A lot of people analyze these games and make research on chess strategy, and it helped to improve the theory of chess. However, because some people strongly insist that shogi game score is protected by copyright and distributing the score can be illegal without copyright holder's consent, people are afraid of exchanging game score. If we get a clear answer to the above question, I think we don't have to be afraid of such claim as exchanging the game score is illegal, and exchange game score without any hesitation, thereby making a lot of Japanese and international shogi fans happy. Finally for those who can read Japanese and want to know more about this issue, following page of Japanese shogi ML well expresses what Japan Shogi Association thinks about this issue. http://bug.org/ML/shogi/onegai.txt Best wishes, Katsutoshi Seki seki (at) ylug.org