From: Eddy Van Hamme <edv.h <at> skynet <dot> be>
Date: 16 dec 2003
Subject: Re: Problems with Topica as SHOGI-L host

Hallo Pieter
Maybe i have a sollution for your problem with topica
this person can help you i think . If you would be so kind to contact him
and explain to him what the problems are.
It is somebody of technical support who works at belgacom skynet here is his
e-mailadress wim.van.de.walle <at> belgacom <dot> be
good luck
Eddy Van Hamme
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pieter Stouten" <stouten <at> shogi <dot> net>
To: <shogi <at> topica <dot> com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:55 PM
Subject: Problems with Topica as SHOGI-L host


> Hello shogi fans,
>
> There have been serious problems ever since SHOGI-L moved to topica.com,
> and I am looking for an alternative host. If anybody knows an
> organization or person that may be willing to host SHOGI-L (and
> preferably runs listserver software), please let me know. Any tips or
> pointers are greatly appreciated.
>
> I was considering moving SHOGI-L to groups.yahoo.com, but I can only add
> 10 subscribers per day, which means that to move all original SHOGI-L
> subscribers, I would need about a month. Although Yahoo may be better
> than Topica, it does not give me the amount of control I had at
> techunix.technion.ac.il and it also "encourages" subscribers to its
> lists to get a Yahoo account.
>
> So, are things all that bad, you may ask. Yes, they are. The migration
> to Topica cost me almost half the original SHOGI-L subscribers.
> Moreover, there are 5 specific problems that really cause a nightmare:
> 1) many people did not receive subscription invitations that I sent; 2)
> others tried to subscribe without getting a request to confirm and never
> got subscribed in the end (e.g., Giuseppe Baggio); 3) then there are
> subscribers that do not get any e-mails from the list although they are
> subscribed (e.g., Martin Danerud) and 4) there are subscribers that
> suddenly got unsubscribed by Topica (e.g., Richard Sams); 5) most
> recently Topica got blacklisted by Demon Internet (which affected e.g.,
> Phil Holland) and probably other ISPs as well.
>
> So, I reiterate my request to please let me know of any potential
> alternative SHOGI-L host you are aware of!
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> Pieter Stouten
> SHOGI-L owner
>
>
>
>

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