From: Matt Casters <Matt.Casters <at> ADVALVAS <dot> BE>
Date: 28 apr 2003
Subject: Re: Shogi Database Program for Mac OS X

Hi Eric!!!!

>Ok, I see the board, I can move pieces, but I still have "Error:
>Couldn't connect to game server !" at the beginning.

It's been designed to run in a client-server mode.
The 'database server' is included.
Running "java Server" starts the server, you can probably use an OS-X Unix
prompt to do so.
This is all in archives included help file.

In any case, that' more then we could see before on a Mac.  The JDK on Mac
was so sh*tty in the past you couldn't do a lot with it really.

In any case, my experience with the program is that perhaps 20 people are
using it world-wide.
Think a about it, around 3 percent of the personal computer users have a Mac
and only a part of them are using OSX.

Writing a program is a wonderful and creative experience and it certainly
won't do any harm.
But I'm afraid you'll be writing it mostly for yourself and a select few.

I'm offering to do a clean-up for J2SE 1.4.1.  Lately I've been using Java a
lot, it won't be any problem.

Cheers,

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: The Shogi Discussion List
[mailto:SHOGI-L <at> TECHUNIX <dot> TECHNION <dot> AC <dot> IL]On Behalf Of Eric Cheymol
Sent: zaterdag 26 april 2003 16:39
To: SHOGI-L <at> TECHUNIX <dot> TECHNION <dot> AC <dot> IL
Subject: Re: Shogi Database Program for Mac OS X


Le samedi, 26 avr 2003, à 15:59 Europe/Paris, Albrecht Heeffer a écrit :

> Eric Cheymol wrote:
>> I am currently writing a shogi program.
>> The idea is to design a chessbase like app for shogi, to help players
>> using Apple machines to improve.
>
> Great! But all functions you mention (and some more) are already
> supported
> by Matt Casters's Gnu Shogi Database project
> (http://www.ibridge.be/shogi/).
> This java program is platform independent and should also run on Mac.
> It does not support playing over the internet but we have
> shogidojo.com.

Yes, Matt's excellent program does many needed things.

But unfortunately, I had in the past so many difficulties to use Gsdb
in Mac OS 9 and previous versions. And even when I could see something,
it was definitely too slow. It was really unusable on my machine.

Now Mac OS X runs java 1.4.1 and with adsl this should be faster. Let's
try.
Ok, I see the board, I can move pieces, but I still have "Error:
Couldn't connect to game server !" at the beginning.
And I don't have the menu bar, I need to try all Fn keys in order to
find the possibilities. So I can only use the java app to enter games
and try to copy & paster the moves. Same as before.

(I already have discussed about this with Matt long ago).

I prefer a standalone application.

Cheers,

Eric