From: Dana B Moreland <dbmoreland <at> RAYTHEON <dot> COM>
Date: 26 sep 2002
Subject: Re: Promoting Shogi overseas (was: HABU INTERVIEW (revised))

Mark,

While I hate to disagree with a member of this list, as a relatively new
shogi player (less that one year), it only took me a few weeks to learn the
moves using a "japanese" shogi set. I found it no harder than learning the
moves using a "standard" chess set. While I have seen both shogi and chess
sets with the moves shown on the pieces I do not find this helpful,
especialy in the long term (more than the first month). I think you will
find that almost anyone that can come to understand how to move that
"horse" or "pointy headed" piece in chess can learn the japanese shogi
pieces in short order.

And while I would very much like to see a profesional "tour" in Denver CO
(my home town), I would much rather see a series of books on shogi in
english taking you from beginner to sho-dan skill level, and a monthly
shogi magazine (in english) covering the latest tournaments and filled with
great games, problems and leasons.

Just my thoughts, thanks,
Dana Moreland




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And what about Shogi game sets with the pieces in something understandable
for the common man?  I bought a used set on eBay, that is long since no
longer available (by Game Brothers or something like that).  Not only does
it have Romaji letters, but also errors to indicate the available moves.  I
understand that, eventually, one should be able to recognize traditional
pieces, but as an introduction, it would seem better to have such sets
available.

Mark :)

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From: "Randy Andrews" <whitetiger123 <at> JUNO <dot> COM>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: Promoting Shogi overseas (was: HABU INTERVIEW (revised))


> I agree the return on investment won't be huge, but how costly would it
> be to produce more bi-lingual books?
>  "Better Moves" has sold out twice now, has it not? There would seem to
> be a market for such books even if
> the target market is Japanese people wanting to learn English through
> shogi.
>
> As far as sending title matches overseas how costly  was that?  What is
> the benefit long-term?  A book once
> published will ALWAYS be available to newcomers to the game (if it is
> kept in print!).  I attended a ladies'
> title match game in Atlanta in 1996.  Dozens of Japanese players,
> supporters, and newspeople traveled 12000 miles
> and, for what??  There was no English commentary!!   What was the purpose
> of a trip to demonstrate shogi with no English
> speaking commentator?
>
>  My point is that publishing a book is less costly (if not actually
> profitable) and provides more long term influence than
>  an overseas demonstration game which reaches a limited audience for a
> brief moment in time.
>
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