From: Larry Kaufman COMCAST NET> Date: 8 oct 2002 Subject: Re: 2 piece joseki problem.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvain Ferrieres" CLIPPER ENS FR> To: TECHUNIX TECHNION AC IL> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:49 AM Subject: 2 piece joseki problem.. > > Hello everybody, > > I'm a kyu player and I try to learn the 2 piece handicap joseki, clearly > explained by L. Kaufmann (thank you !), on Eric Cheymol's page: > http://echeymol.free.fr > > I have questions on the third variation : > > 1. ... S6b 11. Rx3d P'3c > 2. P7f P5d 12. R3f K6c > 3. P4f S5c 13. N3g G7c > 4. P4e G3b 14. G7h P6e > 5. S4h K5b 15. K6i G6d > 6. S4g G6b 16. G5h N7c > 7. P3f P7d 17. S6h P8d > 8. P3e S2b 18. P9f P9d > 9. R3h P6d 19. S4f P8e > 10. P3d Px3d 20. P5f L1b > 21. S3e > > And this variation goes.. > > 21. ... S4b > 22. R4f S23a > 23. P4d Px4d > 24. Bx4d K7b > 25. N4e P'4c > 26. B5c+ Sx5c > 27. Nx5c+ > > And now, L.Kaufmann gives 27. .. B'7a as this pins the promoted knight and > attack it, so after 28. S'6b Bx6b > 29. +Nx6b Kx6b > 30. B'8b the king looks safer and the mate seems > very long to reach. I agree and this seems to be an effective defense. But > why do white have to render the bishop ? > > What about 27. ... B'2h ? attacking the rook with sente (black cannot keep > attacking only with the promoted knight and the silver in hand) and aiming > to retreat as a horse on 6d, even at the cost of a gold against the > promoted knight: the silver on 3b and the horse on 6d are guarding all the > promoted area of the rook, keeping in mind a horse is worth 3 generals..! > > So I'll try to propose some "convincing" variations (I mean convincing for > me): > > First I think the rook should retreat in 4i, because on 4h the bishop > would go on 3g attacking the rook again.. > > 28. R4i G6c > 29. +Nx4c B6d+ > 30. +Nx3b Sx3b A nice idea, but 29 S*6a instead of +Nx4c wins immediately for black. So the line I gave is correct. > Sylvain Ferrieres. > Larry Kaufman