From: Hans Geuns-Meyer <hansgeunsmeyer <at> EARTHLINK <dot> NET>
Date: 3 may 2002
Subject: Re: Question

I'm not a native speaker either, but I've always read this term to mean something like
"a risky fighting move in a bad position,  a move that may turn the tables".  When your opponent has
a definite advantage, ordinary play will result in you losing the game.  The only change of winning
then is to make the 'shobute'.

For an example + short comment see: http://www.shogi.net/shogi-l/Archive/1994/Njan30-02.txt

Hans



----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Kaufman" <lkaufman <at> COMCAST <dot> NET>
To: <SHOGI-L <at> TECHUNIX <dot> TECHNION <dot> AC <dot> IL>
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Question


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Stanley" <ian_stanley <at> BIGFOOT <dot> COM>
> To: <SHOGI-L <at> TECHUNIX <dot> TECHNION <dot> AC <dot> IL>
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Question
> > Japanese :
> >
> > Shobute
> >
> >
> >  After the opening, when a player judges that straightforward
> continuations
> > are insufficient to win, she may make a shobute, a play (te) that puts the
> > game (shobu) in balance. Shobute are typically invasions.
> >
> >  Shobute usually involve some risk, but they are not necessarily
> overplays.
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't speak the language but i got the definition from the Sensei's
> library
> > at   http://senseis.xmp.net/
> >
> >
> > the page is for GO  but as most of the terms used in both GO and SHOGI
> > are decriptive reguarding ideas [eg SENTE and GOTE] then the translation
> > should be accurate
>
>       I think this translation is unsuitable for shogi, particularly the
> reference to "invasion"..  Although I don't really know the word, perhaps in
> shogi it is used to mean "sacrifice" in the chess sense, which may or may
> not be sound.  Japanese speakers, please comment.
>
>      Larry Kaufman