From: Sam Sloan ISHIPRESS COM> Date: 14 dec 2002 Subject: Re: My last comment on the grades issue The Shinjuku Shogi Center will give you whatever rank you say that you are when you first come there, but will knock you down if you do not perform. I have seen players come in, say that they are shodan, but after being paired against a few shodan opponents, if they lost, were demoted to one or two kyu. Obviously, if a person claims to be 5-dan that is a different matter altogether. I doubt that they would recognize a five-dan ranking of anyone that they do not know who has not won a major reported tournament. Sam Sloan