From: bogin YAHOO CO JP> Date: 14 dec 2002 Subject: Re: My last comment on the grades issue > >By the way, I would point out that many clubs in Japan, including > >the Shinjuku (the world's largest), don't generally recognize NSR > >5 Dan ranks unless they were earned in national Japanese > >championships. So when I play there (and I presume the same if > >Gert plays there), I am 4 Dan. > > That's interesting to me as well. The only time I played there they accepted my card and recognize the rating I had gotten at the Osaka Renmei Club. Of course, I wasn't ranked at the 5dan level but was only 1kyu at that time. Actually, they had even wanted to start at me at even lower than that until I showed them my card. Maybe, I was just lucky the day I went and got someone nicer behind the counter than when you went. The only information they have on their web site states that if possible they would like an accurate ranking assessment or official card stating a rank already achieved from first time visitors there. Perhaps you didn't have that with you when you went their the very first time. Most clubs I've been to over here operate in the same way. Unless, you can present something that states otherwise, they almost always put at a lower rank when they pair. I guess they must figure that they it's easier to correct and underestimation then it is an over estimation. The head Pro at the Shinjuku Club is Mr. Futagami Tatsuya and since he is also the President of the NSR it is indeed truly strange that they didn't recognize your rank. Crazy world, isn't it? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! BB is Broadband by Yahoo! http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/