From: Pieter Stouten SHOGI NET> Date: 1 mar 2001 Subject: Re: Results from Stockholm Open 2001 On 01/03/01 at 15:01 +0100, Rikard Nordgren wrote: >> 23.R. Lindkvist S 12k 24- 16- 19- 8- 18- 0+ 1 11 0 1 >> 24.T. Ito J 1d 23+ 7- 11- 0- 0- 0- 1 9 1 6 > >About this score table: Mr Ito (24) won the game vs. Mr Lindkvist >they both have the same score. Isn't it strange that Lindkvist is >before Ito in the final score? Isn't the higher SOS here irrelevant? > It is only a matter of rules. If the rules state SoS is the primary tie-breaker then it is relevant. As to the reasons behind the order of tie-breaking criteria, arguments exist either way: one can say, as you do, that Ito beat Lindkvist and should end higher; one can also argue that the overall performance of all opponents (as measured by the SoS) should determine relative ranks. In this particular case, Mr. Ito had an opportunity to increase his SoS (and his regular score) by playing on the second day. He did not do that and therefore ended below Mr. Lindkvist. Personally, I think that is fair. Nilsson, Palmgren and Suzuki ended low on SoS exactly because some players decided not to play the second day. In fact, several tournament organizers strongly encourage players to participate during all rounds out of fairness to their opponents. Ciao, Pieter