From: Nick Bardsley KEYNOTE CO UK> Date: 14 sep 2000 Subject: Re: Computer's rating [rate of development of computer shogi] > It seems that computer shogi is > following the same path as computer chess, but about fifteen > years delayed, due to the greater complexity of the game. Hmm. More like due to the fact that vastly less in the way of resources were devoted to the development of strong Shogi programs in those 15 years. If the complexity is greater (and I don't for a microsecond dispute that it is) it seems, on the face of it, slightly odd that the _rate_ of development (15 years delayed) is mirroring that of Chess. On reflection, this must be due to the greater experience of complex games programming that obtains these 15 years later. In other words, if the efforts had run in parallel, I would suspect (and all we can do is suspect) that Chess programs of Master level would have been developed before Shogi programs of equivalent level. This is merely to point out the obvious fact that Shogi programs benefit from years of Chess programming experience. However, it may be that parallel efforts would have fed off each other to the mutual benefit of all (just as a Chess player can improve by playing Shogi). Nick