From: DANERUD MARTIN TELIA COM> Date: 6 sep 2000 Subject: Time limits Dear shogi friends, The Swedish players also enjoyed the MSO 2000, and we want to come back next year. In the Swedish Championship as well as our open tournaments, we have previously used 1 hour + 30 s byo-yomi as an adaption to European standards. In the Swedish Championship play-off, we have used 2 hours + 60 s byo-yomi. For the Swedish Championship tournament 2001, we intend to use 45 min + 40 s byo-yomi. Our main restriction is that we want to have seven rounds during a weekend for the Championship tournament. However, this discussion seems a little strange to me. Obviously, if you want to have shogi games with fewer mistakes in the opening and with fewer blunders in the endgame, then it seems natural to me that a long time (like 2 hours) + a long time byo-yomi (like 60 s) should be used. But then of course one has to be aware of the total time needed for such a tournament. Seven rounds would then require at least four days. Then we approach the typical time of a chess game. I also agree with Larry that the "Fischer clock" would be preferable compared to byo-yomi time, but I think that we just make a natural adaption to Japanese standards by using the byo-yomi system. It would be interesting to get a response from someone representing Nihon Shogi Renmei or any other shogi official/strong amateur or professional commenting on the "Fischer clock" compared to byo-yomi. Has a change ever been considered or even used in a tournament in Japan? I do not have anything against experiments with the time limits in shogi, but I think that adaption to standards is good for the players, since then they get used to the circumstances in the most important tournaments like the MSO. I have even understood that byo-yomi time is necessary for being able to play rating games in Europe and the USA. Sincerely yours, Dr. Martin Danerud President of the Swedish Shogi Federation, Vice president of FESA