From: "Majewski, Thomas" WABCO-AUTO COM> Date: 5 sep 2000 Subject: Re: MSO 2000 Shogi Festival We have some practice with 45' + 40" thinking time in the German Open, where we tried this out the lat two years to increase the number of rounds during one weekend. The amount of time used for one round is a little less than the one used for 1 hour + 30' rounds. The feeling is that you cannot think over the opening and the middlegame as good as wit 60', but it's still OK. The byoyomi of 40" is not enough, at least 60" would be better. Cheers, Thomas > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Kaufman [SMTP:lkaufman WIZARD NET] > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 5:03 AM > To: SHOGI-L TECHUNIX TECHNION AC IL > Subject: Re: MSO 2000 Shogi Festival > > At 12:46 PM 9/4/00 +0200, you wrote: > > > >Of course it is foolish to enter byoyomi. I think of the byoyomi as sort > >of > >a punishment for thinking to slow. But it enables the player to play on > >and not > >loose by time (as in chess). > > > >Rikard Nordgren > > > > > When the byoyomi (in seconds) exceeds the main time (in minutes), as > is the case in most U.S. tournaments as well as all "ShogiDojo" games, it > is not at all foolish to enter byoyomi. To avoid byoyomi you would need > to > play at an average pace much faster than the byoyomi itself, without much > benefit. So we in the U.S. and those who play on ShogiDojo have got used > to the idea of byoyomi being a normal part of the game, not a punishment > for slow play. However the time limit of 1 hour + 30" is only justified > by > thinking of byoyomi as a punishment for slow play, as you say. I think it > leads to much lower quality of play than say 40' + 1' byoyomi, which would > probably take about the same amount of time. > The increment system (also called "Fischer", though it was invented > by > me for use in shogi with the "Micromate" clock around 1980, long before > Fischer mentioned it), in which the player must average a fixed amount of > time per move, leads to much better shogi in the same amount of time than > byoyomi. Basically, byoyomi is a holdover from the days when better > methods were not available. > > Larry Kaufman ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager at mail wabco-auto com. **********************************************************************