From: Rachel <shogifuture <at> YAHOO <dot> COM>
Date: 5 jun 2000
Subject: Re: SV Re: SV: Re: A World Shogi Federation and a real

Yes, you are correct almost about everything,
but you forgot for one thing:
The Shogi Princess is not Japanese and does not belong
to NSR.
       (^^)Hahaha.
Keep on smiling with Shogi!!!
                               SP.

--- Doug Dysart <cincychess <at> KASPAROVCHESS <dot> COM> wrote:
> Hi fellow shoglims,
>
> ---- Begin Original Message ----
> >Subject: Re: SV Re: SV: Re: A World Shogi
> Federation and a real
> > WorldChampionship
>
> The Nihon Shogi Renmei is more "real" than a World
> Shogi Federation
> could ever hope to be currently.  Many reasons have
> already been
> cited, like the fact that they have all the pros,
> all the fanatical
> players, and all the clout and money needed to
> popularize shogi the
> world around.  So I think a FIDS (Federacion
> Internacional De Shogi)
> can wait for now.  I know Japanese culture is not
> like American or
> European cultures, but they're not Nazis or
> Communists, last time I
> checked!
>
> >they are afraid that we (the gaijin, the westerners
> etc) will change
> >the game and violate its traditions. They are
> afraid that we will
> >introduce Swiss pairing systems,
>
> I don't think they are *afraid* of Swiss pairings,
> they just don't
> appreciate them.  But, once they understand the
> Dutch system, they
> may yield a little bit.
>
> >new names or symbols of the pieces,
>
> I might have assumed this too, except that I have
> learned over the
> past few years that the Japanese are the biggest
> *promoters* of such
> things!  They put out more international sets than
> anyone, I
> believe.  Also, they have expressed to me that they
> think westerners
> have a hard time with kanji and so western sets
> should be used, with
> pictures on them similar to those in chess diagrams.
>  Such a view was
> expressed to me at the tournament by Mark Ono, right
> in front of my
> European friend, Marc Theeuwen.
>
> As far as names are concerned, most Japanese players
> understand
> "Gold," "Silver," "Bishop," etc.  What if we always
> had to say "Kin,"
> "Gin," and "Kaku" instead?  That would be very tough
> for chess
> players, but it doesn't work like that, fortunately.
>
>
>
> Doug Dysart
> Ohio Shogi Club founder
>
>
> Great chess, great e-mail:
http://www.KasparovChess.com


=====
Rachel Irina Novikov
http://www.shogi.da.ru
http://www.geocities.com/shogifuture

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