From: Douglas Dysart HOTMAIL COM> Date: 26 feb 2000 Subject: Re: Results Dutch Championship 2000 Hi Marc, >The top 3 of the list consisted of the 1999 Champion and the 1999 numbers 3 >and >4 (the 1999 runner up did not participate this year). All other players >were >ranked according to their ELO rating. So there is a mixture of "ranked" players and "rated" players. This is interesting. My experience has been that rating or performance in a qualifier determines one's "seed" in a tournament. Thus, it's a little unusual to see that the Dutch Championship does it with a mixture of rating's and *last year's* performances. Does anyone ever comment/complain about this system? It would be wild if the strength of a shogi organization increased in a short period of time, or if strong players entered the fray, since this could skew the pairings. Ldet's say last year the winner was a shodan, and suddenly a 5-dan moves to Holland. Now his highest possible seed would be 5, correct? Yet he could demolish the number one seed. This might pose a problem. >The playing scheme was as follows: >1-16 8-9 4-13 5-12 2-15 7-10 3-14 6-11 Standard sports playoff type of scheme, a la March Madness in basketball. >The idea behind this scheme is that the supposedly strongest opponents meet >in the finals Usually the case, but there are exceptions. >All players that are eliminated keep on playing in the side tournament >which has >the normal Swiss pairings, where rounds played in the knock-out tournament >are >taken into consideration. Basically the pairings of the knock-out >tournament are >a prescheduled part of the bigger Swiss system. Thanks for discussing this further. The side tournament is what I was REALLY interested in. I may have heard of such a system before, but never in my TDing days have I run across it. I'm going to look at how the overall tournament was paired so I can use this system. Thanks for all your help, Doug Dysart Midwest Championship Tournament Director ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com