From: "e.t" CURSORE IT> Date: 1 feb 2000 Subject: to play shogi on the net Hi, i play on javashogi server and on shogidojo (i dont like java tech too slow) Considering Igs (internet go server) and Fics (freechess.org) java server for shogi is not the best. difficult to save game on hard disk. difficult to examine game after save. difficolt to speak with players. there are no option for players like go or chess server Why nobody build a client to play shogi on fics? fics has a lot of potential shogi players, crazy house variation of western chess is the bad copy of shogi (crazy house=madchess the western shogi variation invented by Alex Randolph) I know crazy house players, they are very strong, they are natural player of shogi, but, they dont know shogi ^___^ this is bad waste of talent. The problem of shogi is only the symbol difficult to recognize, so why nobody draw a shogi set on typical rumble shape using the typical image of western chess? (i mean for shogi server) King, Rook, Bishop, Pawn and Knight can be the same, the prob on Lance can be solved with a missile stylized and general gold and general silver easy to work out with little king stylized with arrow (direction arrow), maybe using Jack symbol from card? Promotion is easy, it is enough to add little red arrow on old piece. And a lot of western players can immediately play shogi (from crazyhouse to shogi). I have friends now who play with me and amuse oneself playng crazy house, bughouse or shogi, well the rock of server is hard, but .... maybe the latest fashion of shogi make tolerable the collapse of quality from fics server to java shogi servers, but the potential shogi player sometime is lost only for problem communication. Bug house is another similar chess variation On Fics, playing in team game, captured piece can be dropped from partner team, why nobody set a similar variation on shogi? Best Enrico