From: Steve Evans NETSPACE NET AU> Date: 31 aug 2000 Subject: Re: Tsui Shogi = Chu Shogi ? Nick Bardsley wrote: > Michael, > > Answers: > > 1. Tsui Shogi is, indeed, Chu > 2. Murray mistakenly believed the game was played with drops. I believe at > some point Murray or Gollon (can't remember which) played the game with > drops and discovered that it made no sense (most of the pieces simply don't > come into play). > As Nick says, they are indeed the same game. Gollon's error seems to have come directly from HJR Murray's fabulous but slightly flawed (in respect of Chu anyway), A History of Chess. There is actually a sample game of Chu played with drops in Gollon's book. But John Gollon corrected the mistake concerning "drops" in the preface to the 2nd (1974) edition. Cheers, Steve > > > > > Dear Shogi-L, > > > > In Chapter 23 of Gollon's book, citing Murray as his > > source, Gollon > > describes a variant of "Japanese great chess" he calls Tsui Shogi and > > translates as "Intermediate Shogi." It sounds similar to Chu Shogi in > that > > it is played on a 12 x 12 board and the piece array is quite similar to > Chu > > and the English name is a near-synonym for "Middle Shogi." But it differs > in > > name, and that the piece array is slightly different, and (most > importantly) > > that the game is played with drops! Can anyone tell me if Tsui Shogi and > Chu > > Shogi are really one and the same game and if Gollon's description of the > > game is basically accurate? Thanks. > > > > ~Michael