From: Pieter Stouten SHOGI NET> Date: 11 aug 2000 Subject: Shogi Impasse I forward the attached mail on behalf of Michael Breier aol com>, who does not subscribe to SHOGI-L. If you have answers to his questions, please respond to him directly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On an English-language webpage describing an Impasse, the following two statements are written: ---- IMPASSE There are very rare cases in which both players have moved their Kings into the opponent's camp and there is no prospect of a checkmate. This situation is called "Impasse". Impasse is adjudicated by counting pieces: each major piece counts as 5 points, the minor pieces as 1 point each. A game ends in a draw when both players have 24 points or more: one player loses when he has under 24 points. In SHOGI, a "piece" refers to any unit, including the Pawn. The Rook and Bishop are called major pieces; the other pieces, with the exception of the King, are called minor pieces. http://www.jwindow.net/LWT/SHOGI/INTRO/shogi_intro.html ---- My questions are as follows: 1) Is the tally only for pieces on the board or does it also include pieces that are in hand? 2) Since the King is called neither a major nor a minor piece, is it therefore not tallied in the final count of pieces? 3) Is an Impasse declared subjectively? That is, solely by means of mutual consent and discretion of an arbiter--or are there concrete guidelines to call an Impasse? In other words, how is one to know for sure when Checkmate is no longer possible for either player? 4) Can one intentionally force a draw by creating an Impasse? 5) Can it happen that both players would have under 24 points each? 6) Does an Impasse occur automatically when the two Kings have entered each other's territories? Thank you very much. Sincerely, Michael Breier