From: Larry Kaufman WIZARD NET> Date: 26 apr 2000 Subject: Re: Pros, Playoffs, and NY At 01:25 AM 4/26/00 -0400, you wrote: > >>>I recently found out that some pros retire at a young age, and with >>> all pro shogi players retirement means no more tournament shogi - >>> Do they find a new >>> Or, do they go >>> to Europe and America to be professional chess players? >>> In many cases, they primarily play teaching games with amateurs after retirement. >>> In all of the recent Ohio shogi tournaments, there has been a tie for >>> I ran these events, and I ALWAYS >>> But, this raises a dilemma - what to do with >>> Three is a great number in many things, but in shogi, three's a >>> Here are the systems I know of: >>> 1) Jan-Ken-Pon (paper, scissors, and stone) - the winner gets to sit >>> while the others see who gets to challenge him; >>>"" - only the top two players play a play-off game; >>>"" - all tied players enter the play-off, unless the rank >>> of the players is the same (i.e. entered the league for the >>> firsttime), they draw lots (is this also Jan-Ken-Pon?) >>> 4) A system whose name escapes me - is it Oyele? - the highest-rated >>> players sits while the others fight to challenge him >>> These systems in pro play generally assume that the players are ranked by performance in the previous event. For us amateurs, these methods wouldn't apply. Of course we could use ratings in place of previous performance, but I think that would be viewed as unfair. If the event in question is a Swiss system, standard chess tiebreaking methods may be used, either to select a winner, or else to select which of an odd number of tied players gets a free ride in the playoffs. >>>Doug Dysart >>> Ohio Shogi Club founder >>> Larry Kaufman