From: teruko P2242 NSK NE JP> Date: 15 apr 2000 Subject: On the difference between rules of shogi and rules of tournament conduct the point is that Japanese are not particularly inclined to obey rules (tournament) just because they are rules whereas this discussion seems to be aiming for a situation where players are expected to obey the rules without question. Rules are only there for those players who are incapable of communicating with each other. I have no intention to change my practices whatever the rules may say. I dont share the feeling expressed by Larry K., in his reply to my previous mail, that all games in a tournament need be played under the same conditions, we're just a bunch of amateurs having fun how can you take it so seriously. I'm imagining a situation where I restart my opponent's clock and mention the nifu, to which my opponent reacts by calling the controller and claiming I lose for pressing the clock without moving. It's a wonderful life.