From: "dr. Eduard Werner (Edward Wornar)" SERBSKI-INSTITUT DE> Date: 13 apr 2000 Subject: Re: Checkmate Dnja Wed, 12 Apr 2000 sæe pisali: > On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Nick Bardsley wrote: > > [...] > > > > This question has a real effect. If moving into check is not > > > illegal, then if > > > you leave your king in check but then cover or escape the > > > check before your > > > opponent notices, play on. If it is illegal, it may still be > > > possible to claim > > > the game. > > > > It is legal to move into check. > > It is legal to remain in check. This is s.th. I doubt. > The Nihon Shogi Renmei once published a little booklet covering all the > Shogi rules (in so far as they had agreed upon explicit rules). > Unfortunately I don't have it at hand right now, but I seem to remember > that moving into check or neglecting to move out off check were definitely > pointed out to be illegal moves. (This is also confirmed by Peter > Blommers's article.) I remembered s.th. interesting w.r.t. check and illegal moves: In 5-minute-chess I was used to taking the king if my opponent didn't react to the check and it used to be a win. However, a few years ago they changed the rules so that you had to claim an illegal move. If you took your opponents king instead, he could claim the game for him (last detected illegal move loses) which I found highly illogical. I would not introduce strange things into tournament shogi. Let a mate end the game and that's it. It may be legal to be mated, but if remaining in check is illegal you are in a position with no legal moves. So how can you win then? If you move after being mated and your opponents time is over, your last move was an illegal one and has lost the game. Claim anything you want before the mate, but not afterwards: If there's a nifu on the board and you fail to notice it and get mated, you deserve it, not only for inferior game play, but also for not noticing violation of the rules. Best Edi -- zzz. |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_)