From: Pieter Stouten <Pieter.Stouten <at> EU <dot> PNU <dot> COM>
Date: 12 apr 2000
Subject: Re: Checkmate and other rules. Re: Illegal moves.

Arnoud Kleynjan wrote:

>Hell just froze over! Sam and Pieter agree on something:
>
I agreed with Sam's entire mail (maybe apart from his first phrase).
In fact, I agree often with Sam. It is just that our differences seem
to lead to heated debates.

Hugo Hollanders wrote:

>Let me just point out these are the recommendations made by the
>Renmei. So in my opinion there is no discussion possible as to
>their validity.
>
Well, the problem is that NSR also categorically says that an illegal
moves loses the game. That is incompatible with only issuing warnings
in case of swap-captures. Maybe, swap-capture is actually an
inappropriate move rather than an illegal move (along with covering
one's pieces in hand, slamming a piece against the side of the board
before playing it, etc.). Since several people (Hugo and Sam among
them) had clearly indicated that without a doubt NSR's word is law
where Shogi rules are concerned, it seems logical to ask NSR to
resolve the ambiguity.

Ciao,

Pieter