From: "George I. Fernandez" MINDSPRING COM> Date: 12 apr 2000 Subject: Re: Checkmate and other rules At 03:29 PM 4/12/00 +0100, Nick Bardsley wrote: >Well, I'm properly chastened by Pieter's post on the NSR position. I would >only add my own two English pennies and remark that such a position is >utterly illogical. For a start it means stalemate is possible - but we're >all told that the impossibility of stalemate is one of the things that sets >the game above Chess. But then I'm a philosopher, so what do I know? Stalemating your opponent is extremely rare but it *can* happen in shogi (especially when larger handicaps are used) and it has the same result as a conventional mate. In fact, there is a very cute stalemate tsume where the player who delivers the stalemate has only his bare King left at the end (!) and the opponent has all of the rest of the pieces on the board [arranged in such a way that none can move] but his only move is to move his King into check, that is, next to the opponent's lone King, thus he is stalemated and loses the game! George George I. Fernandez 28-30 34th Street, Apt.#6-O Long Island City, NY 11103 USA Home Telephone: (718)956-5382 Pager: 1(800)Sky-Page, Pin#1149515 E-Mail: g.fernandez mindspring com