From: Hugo Hollanders <h.hollanders <at> MERIT <dot> UNIMAAS <dot> NL>
Date: 12 apr 2000
Subject: Re: Illegal moves

Dear Sam,

Let me just point out these are the recommendations made by the Renmei. So
in my opinion there is no discussion possible as to their validity. And
this has nothing to do with chess rules. Maybe next time you should read
more carefully before replying.

Hugo Hollanders

At 10:34 AM 4/12/00 -0400, you wrote:
>At 08:54 AM 4/12/00 +0200, Hugo Hollanders wrote:
>>That this 'nasty habit' is indeed an illegal move was explained by Peter
>>Blommers in the last issue of the Dutch Shogi magazine '81'. This
>>'knowledge' is based upon direct contact with the Nihon Shogi Renmei. So
>>you can rest assured that this 'move' is illegal. However, it is
>>recommended that players who do this are given a warning the first time,
>>and will only lose the game if they repeat this 'move'.
>>
>>Hugo Hollanders
>>
>
>Again, I believe that you and Mr. Blommers are mistaken.
>
>An illegal move ends the game. Everybody understands that.
>
>Therefore, if it is illegal to use this elegant manuver to capture your
>opponent's bishop with your bishop, then the only penalty is an immediate
>forfeiture.
>
>Warning the offending person not to make this illegal move again is
>contrary to the spirit of the shogi rules.
>
>I think there is a natural tendency to try to use the rules of chess and
>apply them to shogi. However, the two games are different.
>
>The situation of a player being in checkmate but claiming a win on time
>would also never occur in Japan, I believe, although it is a common
>occurance in five-minute chess.
>
>I think we need to look to Japan for our shogi rules, and not look to chess
>or try to invent them ourselves.
>
>Sam Sloan
>