From: Nick Bardsley ICC CO UK> Date: 12 apr 2000 Subject: Re: Checkmate > The Nihon Shogi Renmei once published a little booklet > covering all the > Shogi rules (in so far as they had agreed upon explicit rules). > Unfortunately I don't have it at hand right now, but I seem > to remember > that moving into check or neglecting to move out off check > were definitely > pointed out to be illegal moves. (This is also confirmed by Peter > Blommers's article.) I'm flabbergastered. This means stalemates. I would be interested to see the NSR position on stalemate and how they reason that it is not a draw. I suspect it will turn out to be a loss for the person being stalemated...but this seems somewhat unsatisfactory - especially if the reason is that the loser can only make illegal moves so he must therefore lose. Any rule that only allows illegal moves would be bizarre in the extreme. Better would be if the person giving stalemate loses on the ground that he is forcing his opponent to make illegal moves. But I await further reports from NSR documentation with great interest. Nick