From: Sam Sloan ISHIPRESS COM> Date: 12 apr 2000 Subject: Re: Illegal moves At 08:54 AM 4/12/00 +0200, Hugo Hollanders wrote: >That this 'nasty habit' is indeed an illegal move was explained by Peter >Blommers in the last issue of the Dutch Shogi magazine '81'. This >'knowledge' is based upon direct contact with the Nihon Shogi Renmei. So >you can rest assured that this 'move' is illegal. However, it is >recommended that players who do this are given a warning the first time, >and will only lose the game if they repeat this 'move'. > >Hugo Hollanders > Again, I believe that you and Mr. Blommers are mistaken. An illegal move ends the game. Everybody understands that. Therefore, if it is illegal to use this elegant manuver to capture your opponent's bishop with your bishop, then the only penalty is an immediate forfeiture. Warning the offending person not to make this illegal move again is contrary to the spirit of the shogi rules. I think there is a natural tendency to try to use the rules of chess and apply them to shogi. However, the two games are different. The situation of a player being in checkmate but claiming a win on time would also never occur in Japan, I believe, although it is a common occurance in five-minute chess. I think we need to look to Japan for our shogi rules, and not look to chess or try to invent them ourselves. Sam Sloan