From: Nick Bardsley ICC CO UK> Date: 3 apr 2000 Subject: Re: D.C. Qualifier Shogi ELO points, surely? (USSF ratings, I assume.) That is, it is an upset when somebody who is rated 600 points higher than his opponent is defeated by that opponent. Like a 1 kyu beating a 2 dan in an even game. (I do not say that the difference is equivalent - I don't know how the points system equates to kyu/dan, for a start.) Anyway, I just thought I'd reply for speed's sake, Nick > > Larry Kaufman wrote: > > > There were two large upsets in the event. Ray Kaufman > defeated Martin > > Koyama, an upset of nearly 400 points. Mike Lamb defeated > J. Yoshinari, an > > upset exceeding 600 points, one of the largest upsets on record. > > > > Points? What points are these? > > Rikard