From: Peter Banaschak T-ONLINE DE> Date: 27 oct 1999 Subject: Re: History of Shogi NOSOVSKY schrieb: > > Hello > Can you inform me who was "shogi-DOROKU" in Shogi from Tokygawa Ieyasu Segun > period and till Meidzi Revolution period. (I suppose you mean the Syoogi-dokoro, not a thing 'syoogi-doroku'.) The first holder of the (lifetime) meijin title in the Syoogi-dokoro (the 'Bureau for Shogi' in the shogunal bureaucracy; from 1662 on the bureau was part of the responsibility of the zisya bugyoo) was Oohashi Sookei (1555-1623). He passed the title over to [I tried my best at Kunreisiki transcription] 2nd meijin Oohashi Sooko 3rd meijin Itoo Sookan 4th meijin Oohashi Sookei 5th meijin Itoo Sooin 6th meijin Oohashi Sooyo 7th meijin Itoo Sookan 8th meijin Oohashi Sookei 9th meijin Oohashi Sooei 10th meijin Itoo Sookan 11th meijin Itoo Sooin (first to become meijin during the Meidzi period) 12th meijin Ono Gohei 13th meijin Sekine Kinjiroo 14th meijin Kimura Yoshio 15th meijin Ooyama Yasuharu 16th meijin Nakahara Akira (?) > I know that "go-doroku" Sansa was first "shogi-DOROKU" but then he refuses > in (1604-1608?) who was the next ? > Where I can read about this period in Shogi. I don' t know whether there are books on this part of Shogi history, but in case you read Japanese, I'd suggest you read one or more of the following: [back to Hepburn transcription] 1. Yamamoto Kyoosuke: Shoogi bunkashi, Tokyo: Chikuma 1980 [sometimes a little bit weird, especially on the early history of Shogi, from 1600 on it seems to be ok] 2. Kubodera Kooichi: Nihon shoogi shuusei, Tokyo: Shin jinbutsu oorai 1995 [informative, quite concise, sometimes a bit over-interpreting as to the early history] 3. Masukawa Kooichi: Shoogi I, Shoogi II, Tokyo: Housei daigaku shuppan 1977 and 1985, resp. [diverse editions; informative, very broad views, peculiar views as to early history, but a storehouse of materials -- a must read] 4. Sakai Yasusgi: Nihon yuugishi [esp. pp 498-517], Tokyo: Kensetsu 1934 [outdated on pre-1600 history, but still...] and diverse (English, German, Italian) articles esp. by Masukawa (eg. in Variant Chess, The Chess Collector, and other magazines), and of course, the indispensable Fairbairn, John: Shogi history ... and the variants, in: Shogi 27 (Sept. 1980), p9-13. [basic, only slightly outdated, Shogi history -- a must read]. I hope this helps. Greetings, Peter