From: Tarin Clanuwat STUDENT CHULA AC TH> Date: 26 oct 1999 Subject: Re: History of Shogi At 10:07 99/10/27 +0100, you wrote: >NOSOVSKY schrieb: Nakahara Makoto 16 seimeijin >> >> Hello >> Can you inform me who was "shogi-DOROKU" in Shogi from Tokygawa Ieyasu Segun >> period and till Meidzi Revolution period. > >(I suppose you mean the Syoogi-dokoro, not a thing 'syoogi-doroku'.) > >The first holder of the (lifetime) meijin title in the >Syoogi-dokoro (the 'Bureau for Shogi' in the shogunal >bureaucracy; from 1662 on the bureau was part of the >responsibility of the zisya bugyoo) was Oohashi Sookei >(1555-1623). He passed the title over to [I tried my best at >Kunreisiki transcription] >2nd meijin Oohashi Sooko >3rd meijin Itoo Sookan >4th meijin Oohashi Sookei >5th meijin Itoo Sooin >6th meijin Oohashi Sooyo >7th meijin Itoo Sookan >8th meijin Oohashi Sookei >9th meijin Oohashi Sooei >10th meijin Itoo Sookan >11th meijin Itoo Sooin (first to become meijin during the >Meidzi period) >12th meijin Ono Gohei >13th meijin Sekine Kinjiroo >14th meijin Kimura Yoshio >15th meijin Ooyama Yasuharu >16th meijin Nakahara Akira (?) > >> I know that "go-doroku" Sansa was first "shogi-DOROKU" but then he refuses >> in (1604-1608?) who was the next ? >> Where I can read about this period in Shogi. > >I don' t know whether there are books on this part of Shogi >history, but in case you read Japanese, I'd suggest you read >one or more of the following: [back to Hepburn transcription] >1. Yamamoto Kyoosuke: Shoogi bunkashi, Tokyo: Chikuma 1980 >[sometimes a little bit weird, especially on the early >history of Shogi, from 1600 on it seems to be ok] >2. Kubodera Kooichi: Nihon shoogi shuusei, Tokyo: Shin >jinbutsu oorai 1995 [informative, quite concise, sometimes a >bit over-interpreting as to the early history] >3. Masukawa Kooichi: Shoogi I, Shoogi II, Tokyo: Housei >daigaku shuppan 1977 and 1985, resp. [diverse editions; >informative, very broad views, peculiar views as to early >history, but a storehouse of materials -- a must read] >4. Sakai Yasusgi: Nihon yuugishi [esp. pp 498-517], Tokyo: >Kensetsu 1934 [outdated on pre-1600 history, but still...] > >and diverse (English, German, Italian) articles esp. by >Masukawa (eg. in Variant Chess, The Chess Collector, and >other magazines), and of course, the indispensable >Fairbairn, John: Shogi history ... and the variants, in: >Shogi 27 (Sept. 1980), p9-13. [basic, only slightly >outdated, Shogi history -- a must read]. > >I hope this helps. Greetings, > >Peter > >