From: Colin Paul Adams COLINA DEMON CO UK> Date: 25 nov 1999 Subject: Re: Capturing a Chu Lion >>>>> "Nick" == Nick Bardsley ICC CO UK> writes: Colin> Because the rules say so: (Lion rules (a) and (e) on page Colin> 6) Nick> Well no, they don't (explicitly). The rules set out what the Nick> Lion can do and give either the only way it can do it or the The rules are quite clear - if a piece moves to a (1) square without capturing, then it may remain where it is, or may return to the original square. NO OTHER CASES ARE MENTIONED, and therefore are not legal. Nick> I care rather more about the issue of a Lion capturing a Nick> Lion on a (1) square - this has a real bearing on how the Nick> game is played and really needs to be sorted out to the Nick> satisfaction of the Chu playing community. It is quite simple - it is legal. Nick> [Now a separate issue...] Colin> Rule 4 c) specifically says how you may capture a Lion on a Colin> (1) Nick> square. That is Capture and move on (or back). This implies Nick> (to me) that you cannot capture and not move the Lion. Of Nick> course, this is nonsense, but there you are. Nick> It is primarily nonsense because there is no good reason for Nick> it in terms of gameplay. I do stand by my belief that MSM Nick> has a small inaccuracy (until GFH says otherwise). I think I agree with this. Nick> Can you say what the clarification of the bare king rule is? When one side has a King (or Crown Prince), and one other piece, and the other side has a King (or Crown Prince) and a (presumed unpromoted, as a tokin is not mentioned) Gold General, then the instant that the other side captures the first side's other piece, the game is over, with a win for the second player. -- Colin Paul Adams Preston Lancashire