From: Colin Paul Adams <colin <at> COLINA <dot> DEMON <dot> CO <dot> UK>
Date: 19 nov 1999
Subject: Re: Rules of tenjiku

>>>>> "Rikard" == Rikard Nordgren <e7rikard <at> ETEK <dot> CHALMERS <dot> SE> writes:

    Rikard> Rule 2b (according to "The Struggle for survival": TSFS
    Rikard> states that a piece may not promote on the next move if it
    Rikard> is not promoted at its first opportunity (except if
    Rikard> capturing). This rule does not exist in TSAL. I guess
    Rikard> Colin Paul Adams took this rule from Chu, but should it
    Rikard> really be in Tenjiku?

>From TSAL:

"Tenjiku shogi is derived from Chu Shogi (Middle Shogi) and most of
the rules of that game apply here. Such rules that do not apply to
Tenjiku are those regarding the exchange of Lions and the rules in
respect of non-promotion of pawns and Go-Betweens (in this case of
Pawns and Dogs)."

So - Yes.

I do not understand the reference to Go-Betweens, as MSM doesn't
mention any promotion restriction on these.

    Rikard> Rule 4: This one is really important! I'll quote TSFS "If
    Rikard> a fire demon moves adjacent to an opposing fire demon,
    Rikard> then all opposing pieces except the opposing fire demon(s)
    Rikard> are burned. The moving fire demon is then itself burned (a
    Rikard> suicide move)."  This is not what TSAL states. I quote:
    Rikard> "(Note: If you should move your FiD next to the enemy FiD,
    Rikard> ONLY your FiD is burnt)" The capitalization of the word
    Rikard> ONLY is the author's not mine. It is quite clear that
    Rikard> these rules are not the same.

Well, it isn't 100% clear (the ONLY might apply to YOUR Fire Demon as
opposed to MY Fire Demon).
I got this interpretation from George Hodges, talking over the
phone. No doubt, he can confirm this here.

    Rikard> Rule 6: This is the bare king rule. This rule does not
    Rikard> exist in TSAL and there is also no analogue with the bare
    Rikard> king rule in Chu, since this rule only applies to gold and
    Rikard> king.

It's supposed to be the Chu rule (see above). Until last week, I was
under a mis-apprehension regarding the Chu Bare King rule, as you
know. This needs correcting.

    Rikard> Rule 7: Repetition is not allowed. This rule is not given
    Rikard> in TSAL.

Inherited from Chu, as above.

    Rikard> Finally I would like to say something about the move Lion
    Rikard> Hawk. In TSFS Colin Paul Adams suggests an alternate move
    Rikard> for the LHk. George Hodges does not agree. Since I haven't
    Rikard> got all the sources of the rules of Tenjiku shogi I don't
    Rikard> know what move was really intended, but as I read the
    Rikard> excerpt from Sho Shogi Suzhiki in TSFS the move of the LHk
    Rikard> is stated to be the move of a bishop and lion combined (it
    Rikard> also says "lion move see earlier". This seem rather exact
    Rikard> to me and with this only source in mind it is (at least
    Rikard> for me) rather obvious that the move should be just the
    Rikard> move of a lion with the ability to range in the diagonals
    Rikard> and not an area mover.

George assures me that there is no question of my rule being
historical. But I still think it should be the correct rule (the
designer of the game made a mistake).
--
Colin Paul Adams
Preston Lancashire